I've had my fun, StealthMonkey. I'll let the comment monkeys finish you off.
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chill guy its not like it is gonna overwrite every cs_siege map out there and it will be lost forever or something, shit. Let things have a little growth. think of how sucky the world be if the first/official version of everything was to be final.Comment
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I'm sure N0TH1NG had more in life to worry about than his CS maps.
Please understand that fact. N0TH1NG didn't kill himself, Justin DeJong did.
Btw, the current siege was made after his suicide. The textures were all applied without his written consent. Heaven forbid.Comment
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Oh off topic eh~ I got my package of NOLF2 and some jackass drew all over it with a sharpie.
<3 rizzuh
I'm going to go play now bye. Siege sucks by the way! It was fun for like 5 days in beta 7 or whatever when you could run over your teammates and drive off the cliff until the admin banned you or changed the god damn map back to dust! Kidding...RIP n0th1ng 9/11 never forget, god bless america!Comment
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I think our boys in the service wouldn't take kindly to an unarmored personnel carrier.Comment
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It's messed up thinking about people who killed themselves. Yes, there is such a thing as respect for the dead, but part of that is not freaking out over their stuff, and just making things that much harder for those who knew them. People need to be able to move on in life, hard as it may be. So while I appreciate the concern for the respect of the dead, I think the concern is a little more sensitive in this case than need be.
I do have to admit... the bombsites are pretty ugly.
Ritchey007... from counter-server? But I thought those guys just came here to tell rizzuh how evil he was for insulting their forum program...
Nice to see new blood on the team, hopefully with your experience you'll work out well with this great site. :)Comment
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Siege is possibly my favourite map (pity it doesn't get played much) and I much prefer cs_ maps over de_ types but I'm not totally averse to a de_ version of siege. Firstly, as has been pointed out, it's not the official version of siege so nowhere near all the people who play CS will play it. Secondly, if it gets more people playing on my favourite map (in whatever form) then I'm all for it. It is true that about 50% of siege is not used in normal games (the offices and the mine spring to mind).Comment
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Judging by those screens, the CT's are going to be able to get to both bomb sites first. The elevator site is so ridiculously easy to defend, and will block the 2nd route into the top bombsite causing a horrible painfull death to all T's attempting bomb plant. Wouldn't it have been better to move the lower site into the elevator building up top, or at least somewhere a little further from the restricted access (having to go down the elevator) and the CT camp out?
Right now it seems like the CT don't have to lift a finger to protect either site. I could be wrong, I havn't played it.Comment
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I liked siege best in beta 6, being at night made it much more suspenseful.Comment
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Well, I do know Joe. I helped him run his server for awhile. And I'm aware of his need to change other peoples maps. I did it once too. It was how I got my start as a mapper.
There was once a map called "ss_place2" I played it many moons ago. And saw potential in it. But it basically had one single texture throughout the entire map. So I wanted to spruce it up. I talked with Joe, and the others in the gaming community, and no one could come up with the original author. So I went ahead and tryed to retexture it. First cs_place3, and now cs_place4.
Umm.........I'm done with fucking with other peoples maps now. At least not without asking first. Actually, I haven't touched mapping because of place4. It's become a fairly popular map now, and it kills me I can take zero credit for it.
After working on Joe's server for almost a year, he had asked me many times to change things on other peoples maps. But I refused. So this isn't a new thing for Joe. He just had to learn how to do it himself.
He was never able to figure out Worldcraft. But thanks to ripent.exe. He is now able to have a www.joe.to banner flying above the bombsite on de_aztec.
http://www.c0g.net/joe_banner.jpg
And he's been able to to change de_dust to cs_dust.
Like the other fellow said, adding spawns to allow 32 players is one thing. But actually changing the entire theme of the map or adding advertising without permission is wrong in my opinion.
1) I do think Seige will work as a de map.
2) I do not think it was up to Joe to do it.
3) As a mapper, I implore you, leave peoples creations alone.Comment
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Edited by [user="3037"] @ [time="1035026616"]StealthMonkey wrote..
if you don't like it - don't play it. it's that simple. as for respecting the author, i would think that now more people will be playing HIS map (whether it has bombsites or not) and that would have pleased him. anyway, neither of us can guess how he would feel, so just decide for yourself if you like it or not. it's a game, not a memorial.
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WHAT THE FUCK?!
This is a sick disgrace. It is one thing to bring back an old siege, the sniper tower, the apc, hell, even the really old one when it was night (if anyone even remember the glory days). You can move the spawns a bit and add 32 player support, sure, small little things. BUT WHAT THE FUCK?! BOMB SITES? A de map?!?! What the fuck are those huge ass sprites? May noth1ng rest in peace. I am glad for his sake that he doesn't have to be here to witness this disgrace. Since he killed himself like a year ago I know that this 'joe' person didn't get his approval to fuck up his map, I would like to know who the fuck he thinks he is to go and pull something like this off. "He is trying to make something good better." I don't want to hear it, that may be his motive, but I don't give a fuck. You don't go and do something like this. It's just one huge lack of respect. No one download it, no one support it. What a lack of respect, you take a great mapper (siege, docks, ect) and turn his works of art into shit, wtf! Sick. Wrong. Sad. RIP noth1ng. Everyone who posts things like "THIS IS AWESOME!!!", I feel bad for you that you are inconsiderate lil fucks and can't let a person's map be. I never knew him personally, but obviously people did, and I'm sure they miss him. What a fucking lack of respect, taking something he did and screwing around with it so much.
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thanks for the kind words from everyone else :)Grayden wrote..
lol grayden, a little bitter i took away your admin privs? i didn't ask you to do anything "many times" - i don't even recall asking you to mess with place (you volunteered). and we both know that you are no tech genius. i was adding spawns to maps before you ever heard of CS, and when i get emails from all over the world thanking me for my efforts, i think it was a good thing to do.
After working on Joe's server for almost a year, he had asked me many times to change things on other peoples maps. But I refused. So this isn't a new thing for Joe. He just had to learn how to do it himself.
He was never able to figure out Worldcraft.
as far as the banner, it helps build the community which is the main reason CS is fun - getting to know the people you play against.
making maps takes a lot of time and energy and i would rather spend my time on something else. pardon me for not being a hardcore mapper.
thanks for the ridiculous flame - now you just look dumb :)
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