The Original cs_siege With A Twist

[MikeJ]

32 player servers do not work with true counter-strike based team play and tactics, that's why league play is 5v5. CS was originally designed with small squad like play that resembles true counter terrorism situations. Once a server gets over 16 players it starts to get chaotic and uncontrollable and the only thing left to do is to run like a moron with a gun, which isn't counter-strike.



I miss the days of 14 player pubs that ran a full map rotation that cycled every 25 minutes.

[Tasslehoff [eLa]]

Kream wrote..

this map is horrible in gameplay.

what are you talking about?

im guessing you played this map at a server which likes to camp and camp and camp and camp.

at joes server. he likes to enfore the "do your objective rule" and strictly enforces it.

try it there one time, and then you'll change your mind

[reptar]

actually noth1ng applied the first round of textures on seige himself with joesmoe, I was there when he asked for them. Not trying to start a flame war though...



-zilla

[mouth]

So, you can't map, you can't defend your own point, you can't make a sensible one for that matter, and you know fuck all about CS' gameplay. You sound like a winner to me, joe.

[munky87]

tHIS MAP ROCKS WHAT U TALKING ABOUT I LOVE JOE AND I AM AN OLD SCHOOL LIEK MOST OF MY CS LIFE PLAYED WITH JOE ON HIS SERVER GOD BLESS HIM AND THAT GREAT MAP

[pneuma]

mouth wrote..

So, you can't map, you can't defend your own point, you can't make a sensible one for that matter, and you know fuck all about CS' gameplay. You sound like a winner to me, joe.

You have never tried the map. You have never played at joe's. You know nothing about him or the community he supports. And you like to call people names.



What are you, 12?



I've been a regular at joe's for many months. It is the single best CS I have found on the net. CS gameplay rules are strictly enforced (i.e. T's have to plant, CT's have to rescue, etc.). There are a great group of admins who are quick to ban anyone who disrupts the game for the other players. Racism and homophobia are not tolerated. In short, it's a server for people who want to play serious fun CS, with players who know how to behave themselves.



As far as joe's de version of siege 10, I think it is a great map, lot's of fun to play. The bomb site over the bridge usually turns into a sniper duel, while the lower bomb site sees vicious fighting as the t's try to make their way down the elevator shaft. The map has been play tested at joe's for many hours, and it truly is balanced.



I'd invite everyone to come out and play with us. Come see what the community at joe's is all about before you decide to flame him.



You can find all of the custom maps at http://maps.joe.to/maps/.



Check out joe's site at www.joe.to.



And finally, come play at 64.81.70.193:27015.



joe.to - adults only, experts only counter-strike

[Ritchey007]

Joe, Which version of siege did you use? It does hint of the newer ones.



-:Nighthawk:-, I am a very balanced person. You won't see me flame anyone unless they really deserve it(it will be in private if I have a topic to discuss).



Ritchey~

[TheSpookyChicken]

pneuma wrote..

As far as joe's de version of siege 10, I think it is a great map, lot's of fun to play. The bomb site over the bridge usually turns into a sniper duel, while the lower bomb site sees vicious fighting as the t's try to make their way down the elevator shaft. The map has been play tested at joe's for many hours, and it truly is balanced.

Don't lie. Just say that you like the map, but don't say bullshit like the gameplay is balanced because its not. The lower bsite sees all ts die in the elevator shaft and the bsite over the bridge sees cts snipe all ts because the ts have no way to protect themselves. To guard the bsite over the bridge, the cts don't even have to move from their spawn and yes I have played in joe's server and it's a great server, but the map blows.

[narby]

Told you that elevator would be a murder hole.

[blaz1n_azn]

StealthMonkey wrote..

<anger>

WHAT THE FUCK?!

This is a sick disgrace. It is one thing to bring back an old siege, the sniper tower, the apc, hell, even the really old one when it was night (if anyone even remember the glory days). You can move the spawns a bit and add 32 player support, sure, small little things. BUT WHAT THE FUCK?! BOMB SITES? A de map?!?! What the fuck are those huge ass sprites? May noth1ng rest in peace. I am glad for his sake that he doesn't have to be here to witness this disgrace. Since he killed himself like a year ago I know that this 'joe' person didn't get his approval to fuck up his map, I would like to know who the fuck he thinks he is to go and pull something like this off. "He is trying to make something good better." I don't want to hear it, that may be his motive, but I don't give a fuck. You don't go and do something like this. It's just one huge lack of respect. No one download it, no one support it. What a lack of respect, you take a great mapper (siege, docks, ect) and turn his works of art into shit, wtf! Sick. Wrong. Sad. RIP noth1ng. Everyone who posts things like "THIS IS AWESOME!!!", I feel bad for you that you are inconsiderate lil fucks and can't let a person's map be. I never knew him personally, but obviously people did, and I'm sure they miss him. What a fucking lack of respect, taking something he did and screwing around with it so much.

</anger>

You sir, are a complete idiot. He didnt steal anything. He took it and modified it, and he decided to release it. If you don't like that, go whine to someone else cuz bitching about it here isnt gonna get u shit except makin u look like a complete jackass that cries when theres something he doesnt like.

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narby wrote..

32 player servers are horrible. Very few are equipped to cope with 32 players, let alone actually being fun to play on. The whole thing just turns into a bloodbath.

Bloodbath = FUN

[narby]

Bloodbath = shitty gameplay you can find in any deathmatch game under the sun. Any moron can put 32 people in a room and let them redecorate in brain matter gray, this is fun for about 0.06 seconds.



In my experience of 32 player servers every round consists of run to a chokepoint with 15 other people tripping each other up and blocking each other like a pack of 7 year olds to a harry potter book signing and meet the other 16 people doing exactly the same thing from the other direction. Watch as everyone is slaughtered except for the several players who managed to find the pocket of cover and were not blocked in the process, and wait for 4 and a half minutes for them to make their way around the biggest, most complicated map known to exist in the universe looking for the other 2 players who survived on the other team by some horrible act of satan that prolongs the 30 seconds it should have taken for everyone to be obliterated.



Break down and cry as your brain slowly dissolves from all the idiotic verbal diarrhea of 24 people with obsessive compulsive disorder typing simultaneously ``fag fag fag this sucks cOME ON'' ``Zzzzzzzzzzzzzfagzzzz'' and checking the time left every 16th of a second in hope it will somehow drop to zero so they can start the ridiculous cakewalk of a round all over again.



32 player servers are like open heart surgery without the anesthetic.

[The Who?]

narby wrote..

Bloodbath = shitty gameplay you can find in any deathmatch game under the sun. Any moron can put 32 people in a room and let them redecorate in brain matter gray, this is fun for about 0.06 seconds.



In my experience of 32 player servers every round consists of run to a chokepoint with 15 other people tripping each other up and blocking each other like a pack of 7 year olds to a harry potter book signing and meet the other 16 people doing exactly the same thing from the other direction. Watch as everyone is slaughtered except for the several players who managed to find the pocket of cover and were not blocked in the process, and wait for 4 and a half minutes for them to make their way around the biggest, most complicated map known to exist in the universe looking for the other 2 players who survived on the other team by some horrible act of satan that prolongs the 30 seconds it should have taken for everyone to be obliterated.



Break down and cry as your brain slowly dissolves from all the idiotic verbal diarrhea of 24 people with obsessive compulsive disorder typing simultaneously ``fag fag fag this sucks cOME ON'' ``Zzzzzzzzzzzzzfagzzzz'' and checking the time left every 16th of a second in hope it will somehow drop to zero so they can start the ridiculous cakewalk of a round all over again.



32 player servers are like open heart surgery without the anesthetic.

so true.

[garry]

what kind of moron needs a huge sprite telling them where the bomb site is.. its traditional to have a mark on the floor.



why the hell move the terroists to into the main garage.. By having the bomb points where they are you just made the garage useless anyway - so why bother.



It seems to me that this is just a poor attempt at getting your mapping (or lack of) noticed - probably because you cant come up with your own popular idea.



To summarise. Bomb placement is awful. 'Dumbass' sprites are awful. Having the map the wrong way around is awful. Idea is awful.

[Simplex]

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joe wrote..

more importantly, i wouldn't be wrong for doing it. CS is a personal activity, and fortunately the opinions of any number of players mean squat.

You are exactly correct here. Go for it. 32 players? Great. It is still dumb. We aren't stopping you. Go.

joe wrote..

saying it here is wasting everyone's time.

Yes, that's why I'm here - to waste my and anyone else's time who reads anything with that puke orange picture next to it.

pneuma wrote..

It is the single best CS I have found on the net. CS gameplay rules are strictly enforced (i.e. T's have to plant, CT's have to rescue, etc.). There are a great group of admins who are quick to ban anyone who disrupts the game for the other players. Racism and homophobia are not tolerated. In short, it's a server for people who want to play serious fun CS, with players who know how to behave themselves.

Now I'm not commenting on your personality. If you inforce those rules, that's really cool. We need more servers like that. However, forget not: 32 players no es divertido.

[narby]

Clownhut has followed the objective enforcement rules for years