e7 was a forfeit game.
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SinaC wrote..
Your sense of humor is on par with mine. In other words, give up now.
ROFL Sub, great job.
You are funnier than me. :'(Comment
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good to have you back subby :)Comment
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especially 2c hansonComment
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hahah, newberts. Sorry but that is the most retarded excuse for "evidence" i have seen in my life. And of course if you watch a movie that was recorded with a wallhack enabled it's going to look like he cheats every time his crosshair happens to rome over an enemy, at the cal-i level you pretty much know where the enemy is at all times based on a couple things: Sound, where they killed your teamates, logic. Now of course he could be the master at covering up a simple wallhack, but that's for the CAL admins to decide.Comment
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Uh, he was kicked MikeJ for suspected hacking. Did you actually watch the video? He couldn't make it more obvious.
Edit: Just saw your other comment so you obviously havent watched it. You said 5 second clips of frags. This was for duration of rounds. Not to mention two flashes are thrown in front of his face if you watch the demo and he doesn't get blind but he says to his teamates "OMG FLASH" and turns against the wall.
u sukComment
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Edited by [user="1457"] @ [time="1034387435"]
The movie was 4 minutes long, but it was split into several second clips which are IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE ANY ASSUMTIONS ON. And then i proved my point by linking to http://www.teamzex.com/files/train_wallshot.zip
Now i did not see the demo, which is the only way you can make a judgement. I simply stated that anyone who can conclude hacks from 10 seconds of video footage is a fool, which is true.
Edit: to make it clear i did watch the "youdecide" movie from start to finish.
Here look at it from my point of view. Keep in mind this is all based off the movie, not the demo. Making every peice of evidence ENTIRELY circumstantial.
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A) he was flashed 2 times (both were duds) they did not show in his POV demo. Yet he says I'm flashed and acts as if he is.
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The "i'm flashed" could simply be a bind he pressed out of habbit, as would be the reaction to the flash. Perfectly acceptable behaviour for a dud flash
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B) first round he was pretty fast at jumping down and finding the guy under the train.. he didn't just look, he chased he knew he was there.
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It's called sound. Which we cannot here in the movie, so we don't know if the T gave their position away or not.
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C) shooting the guy under the train near the elect box. he was very lucky in guessing he was gonna be there? never looked to the right where his teamate died.
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Again, there are any number of reasons that he knew he was their, from sound, to team communication, to just plain logic "he's not there so hes here"
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d) in the Demo (HLTV) he states he was flashed yet he was not. Refer to item A
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Refer to my responce for item A, again, i'm reffering simply to the movie itself.
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e) The guy camping at the end of bomb car.. he sat and watched him for a long time.. never looking anywhere else?
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He knew he was there, or in that general area. It could happen right?
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f) When he was crouched down behind bomb car at end of movie. He looks around the car but zooms in and puts crosshairs on the guys head before he come out and keeps them on his head while he moves out. Luck again?
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Yes
My point? There are perfectly legitamate reasons for each one of these circumstances, the full HLTV demo will allow you to make an accurate assumtion because you have everythign right there. Out of context silent clips do nothing.Comment
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MikeJ, the movie is blatent to people experienced with cs at this level and..
the demo WITHOUT the wallhack is even worseComment
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There were a couple spots where I was like "bs".
When he turned the corner after awping 1 guy, and knew there was a guy under the train. Then he sat there forever and watched the guy just sitting at the other end of the train. When he was shooting at some one on top of a train, that he couldnt see. At all. He was shooting just above his head, not realizing that he couldn't see him. He was then able to make an amazing shot as the person fell off the train. Lastly, when he hit the guy who climbed up the ladder.
rawr.
I suggest downloading a wallhack, watching the demo with it on, and then deleting it. It's better than a stupid movie.Comment
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Edited by [user="1457"] @ [time="1034396399"]moobob wrote..
please try reading my reply.
MikeJ, the movie is blatent to people experienced with cs at this level and..
the demo WITHOUT the wallhack is even worsealso keep in mind i'm not trying to clear this persons name, or explain anything that happened in the demo. I'm simply stating that based off these clips you can't make a big enough conclusion to bring a conviction upon a CAL-I player. That's what demos are for.
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one last thing: i tottaly agree that he was hacking, and doing a piss poor job at covering it up, but i concluded that from the damn demo. The movie means nothing.Comment
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i concluded he was hacking from watching the demo. you thought i only watched the movie.
i could tell he was hacking in the 2nd half of the match, i was watching him, it was pretty obvious.
a guy can be good, but you dont know where everyone is every time, or accidently spot the guy behind 2 walls, leave your crosshair on him, then chase and kill him. its too obvious.Comment
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CAL-i Results
Updated as they come in!
RiotSquad -over- 3D :: 15-9
All I can say is, I didn't see this coming, and I doubt [rs] did either, with one man playing under the name inactiveness and [rs] looking sloppy at first ct side. However, [rs] turned around ct side at the end by getting 5 rounds, then just romped 3D t side 8-2, at which point they locked the win. I didn't stick around to watch the last 2 rounds, and neither did 3D | Cannon, so playing 4v5 I can only assume they dropped them. Here is the demo.
Team NetZone -over- shockwave :: 21-3
aoX -over- LegenDz :: 14-10
DoP -over- TSG :: 15-9
TEC -over- Team C[h]ikara :: 16-8
zEx -over- iLan :: 21-3
e7 -over- iwa :: 15-9
Excess -over- BiO :: 17-13 OT
Gamers-X -over- Ascension :: 15-9
Pinnacle -over- GB :: 14-10
TAU -over- [hs] :: 19-5
Rival -over- TSO :: 21-3
NEG -over- htp :: 13-0 (Forfeit)
eS -over- utp :: 16-8
WEW -over- fu :: 20-4
nerve -over- IfB :: 21-3Comment
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CAL-i Results
What the?!? SUBLYME? BACK FROM THE DEAD?!? Sorry to steal your thunder SinaC, but I thought I'd show my face long enough to do some results. Check out the predictions and then click through below![break="Click through!"]Yeah, so my computer is still out of commission and I still have a broken arm, and I had a show tonight (me = drama major). Basically, I've been busy and unable to be around lately. Let's take a look at the results for tonight's matches, as we have a few nice surprises:
TEC -over- zEx :: 13-11
I can only say wow, as I didn't expect zEx to be toppled by TEC. TEC is a strong team, but zEx has continously been the online superstars - perhaps recent cheating accusations against zEx has caused them not to play their A-game? Whatever the case, definitely a surprise, with TEC moving up that ladder.
BiO -over- LgD :: 13-11
Blah blah blah, the phrase "legendz never die" doesn't fit with this clan, insert witty remark, next match.
iwa -tied- [rs] :: 15-15
With all the close matches lately between "lower-tier" clans and upper-tiered clans, I'm beginning to wonder if the gap has closed more tightly or if top players on the "top teams" just aren't performing to their capability. Whatever the case, last season iwa tying riot-squad would be unthought of; it's a shame iwa couldn't topple the giant and give themselves the boost they needed.
2c -over- [e--] :: 13-11
WHAT THEP(U%*#%*#%&*#%&#%&(#H#%H(Uh
aoX -over- PLAYBOY/w0s :: 19-5
Such a shame, as PLAYBOY was on such momentum last season, toppling giants like TAU and Firstwave, along with winning a CPL autoberth. This season PLAYBOY is struggling after losing their leader sosinki - aoX is a strong team and I'm not sure who I would side with, last season's PLAYBOY or aoX now. Whatever the case, PLAYBOY needs to get their stuff together.
3D -over- DoP :: 17-7
3D brought DoP to their Domain and showed them what Pain is! HAHA I MADE A FUNNY!
TAU -over- Pinnacle :: 20-4
What, maybe a rebirth of the old powerhouse TAU? Please tooth fairy, pretty please? I'll admit I'm biased, as I was a big fan of the old power TAU before their lil breakup; let's hope they get back into the swing of things with more big wins like this.
SB -over- sf. :: 18-6
Holy inconsistency batman! Just a few weeks back, the select few defeated DoP, and now they're being murdalized (my word) by a team with more losses under their belt than the Jamaican bobsled team. Or maybe I just like to freak out for no reason.
utp -over- TSG :: 15-9
Uhh, let's see...destrukt is no longer in TSG, and neither is Quake 3 superstar zero-4...so what does that mean? Yes, TSG sucks again. Or maybe I'm just a jerk. I'm sorry TSG, I'll make it up to you by standing under the missletoe at the christmas party extra long this year.
e7 -over- ExS :: 24-0
Forfeit? Total whuppage? Perhaps we will never know since e7 was lazy and didn't make any comments in reporting the score...
NEG -over- fu| :: 18-6
fu is getting off to a slow start this season. In other news, I like hamburgers. I ate one at waffle house tonight.
Rival -over- ifB :: 21-3
Rival was in for blood tonight when they faced ifB AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA I'm going to bed.
Team IPX -over- SYB :: 13-11
WHAT THE why do all the teams who did well last season suck this season? I'm tired.
John Jensen I love you. As for the rest of you CS-Nationalists, whenever my PC is back up and running I'll be back and providing all the eSports news you can eat...or run through a blender and be fed intravenously.Comment
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zEx > iLan ...
zEx stomped them hard, 10-2, than another outrageous win on the CT side.
This 3d match was a surprise. Very cool to see 3D DIE!!!
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