Comrade Redone

[garry]

I dont think it's a contest of which maps look the best. The majority of cs's maps dont look good. But that's what cs is about - gameplay. cs looks like ass compared to all modern games, it's a well documented fact.



But the awful truth is that all modern games' netcode sucks (ut), the specs are too high for most people (bf1942), the gameplay is shit (devestation), they're just a cs rip off on a newer engine (igi2, new world order) or they don't have things that should be standard by now - like voice comm (all of the above).



btw mikes maps suck. He's not a games mapper - he creates enviroments - which is great for single player but doesn't cut the flange on mp games.

[doink]

Edited by [user="14597"] @ [time="1048539876"]

Narby: my comments weren't meant to be rude to you, they were meant to point out the ignorance of the people who say things like:

its like the forbidden fruit, look so damn good but you can't get it

and

The screenshots are mindblowing.

I'm not actually a cynic of yours, and I love your maps, it's just that I do feel that there are other mappers out there who are working incredibly hard and don't get the credit they deserve.



On the other hand, you release a decent looking set of screenies, though nothing extraspecial, and you get comments like that. I guess your lucky.... this kinda thing is what infuriates other mappers, mainly from jealousy (that you have the contacts/fans that you do).



I know it ain't your fault but still, surely some of the other mappers deserve some more credit? That was my point..... the ignorant should be informed.



And just to add to garrys point, Mike is a great mapper... he not only maps, but he pioneers (see greenhouse and stuka) and while survivor isnt a truly great map gameplay wise, his other maps (esp. 747 and deadlock) and fantastic fun.



And another thing: the cscentralpack2 maps I played so far have better gameplay than lego dammit!

[smokie]

as a competitive cs player, in cal-i team shockwave, i can say narby's maps are the best for a good map. The look of a map only lasts so long and the gameplay is what counts. I cant wait for any of narby's new releases because they always guarantee to be a great playable map.

[platy]

I like how you haven't played comrade or any of the maps in the CSCentral map pack, and you also call people ignorant for basing opinions on screen shots, when you did the same damn thing.



For all you know, all the maps in the CS Central map pack could suck ass, and comrade might also suck ass, but at least Narby isn't trying to make the prettiest maps. I'd much rather play on an ugly as shit map with great gameplay than some gussied up shit fest with no gameplay value whatsoever.

[prompt.]

No offense to Narby he does a great job on maps. But de_cpl_fire is still trash. Ct still have an advantage of getting to the middle 3 seconds earlier then the T's.



On another note Comrade looks like one of best maps to come out since de_dust2 \ de_inferno. Mostly for gameplay in leagues. Narby you have done an awesome job and keep up the good work.



To doink. Put up a map of your own or shut up. You critisize for something your puny brain couldn't do.

[doink]

platy wrote..

I like how you haven't played comrade or any of the maps in the CSCentral map pack, and you also call people ignorant for basing opinions on screen shots, when you did the same damn thing.

Think you'll find I have played a fair few of them, and I have played comrade, and I persoanlly prefer the gameplay of the CSCentral ones I've played.....



de_laguna is absolutely AMAZING

prompt. wrote..

To doink. Put up a map of your own or shut up. You critisize for something your puny brain couldn't do.

If you actually read my posts, I say how while it is all very good, there are just as good maps out there that get less exposure when they deserve just as much...



and FYI, I can map, but I suck with at texture making (unfortunately I don't have my own personal texture artist) so I tend to keep fiddling with complex entity sequences (something fairly damn complicated) and making models for maps.

[mr_parker]

where can i download this map? provide a link please.

[Synic]

Narby, you're doing a kickass job on all of your maps.

The facelift of aztec and inferno even give it a new incentive.



Everyone has his own reasons to build maps for CS.

You tend to focus on gameplay, which has been a proven focus for the last for years.

Others like 3D Mike tend to build huge graphic maps which are pleasent for the eyes.

I have great respect for those guys, but there seems to be a lot of crap amongst those maps.



I recently started to make some custom maps for my clan, but I soon found out the importance of the layout and the gameplay.

Textures, objects and all that other crap are of minor importance.

After all it's the bloodshed that counts ;-)

[narby]

Don't get me wrong, I totally respect them and their maps but i'm just getting tired of recieving flak over issues I have no control over.

[MikeJ]

dont h8 the mapper h8 the game :O

[Ghengis]

maybe 3d mike should tex the games that narby makes?

Cos his maps are BEautiful, de 747 is fantastico!!!!

[abel]

Edited by [user="23346"] @ [time="1048549152"]

David Johnston wrote..

I am going to hold my hand up, admit I've never played Comrade, and therefore dismiss any opinion I have about it. I am neutral.



So there.

I too will hold up my hands



ZOLTAN!



Don't see why people are still crying over cpl_fire.. until the map is actually played in match play, we wont know how well it'll go. Who cares ifthe CTs get there 3 seconds ahead? Woopidy do, still gonna get their ass pounded if people are coming from 2 or 3 different directions simultaneously.

[metlmania8]

This map looks hot as hell, uh uh uh oh sorry



Mr. parker, it's not finished yet, our friend and neighbor, narby, is fixing the bugs and what not.

[Exo]

It's okay narby I'm here for you. I think aztec is fun!

[Paul Shuttle]

Ya know, i didn't mean you couldn't have any opinion on it - I just wanted people to refrain from "best evr@@!~~" comments before they've even played it.



Erm.. yeah. I'll shut up. Hallelujah!