New Sands of Fire Trailer Released

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  • |D|-Jaws

    #31
    Re: New Sands of Fire Trailer Released

    Originally posted by Rhino
    protecting there brand or not, they are still loosing part of there userbaseb to one of there main competitors so my point still stands.

    They can do what they like, but IMO, its not a wise thing to do. I and I'm sure many other people who use to you viemo will be happy using youtube HD as a substitute and to never use viemo again.

    Empathy.


    Maybe if you worked for them and were expected to turn a profit, you might think otherwise.

    I can tell you by reading their forums that they are damn adamant in keeping gameplay videos off their site and only allowing the highest quality machinima. The staff has mentioned that they delete hundreds of gaming videos a day.

    Straight from the Vimeo Blog.....

    The Vimeo staff has decided that we are no longer going to allow gaming videos on Vimeo. Specifically, we are no longer going to allow game walk-throughs, game strategy videos, depictions of player vs player battles, raids, fraps, or any other video gaming videos that simply depict individuals playing a video game. Videos falling into this category will be subject to deletion as of September 1st; new videos of this type will be removed.

    There are many reasons for the decision, two of which we would like to elaborate on.

    1) Vimeo was created with the intent of inspiring creativity and providing a place to share video with friends and family. The Vimeo staff does not feel that videos which are direct captures of video game play truly constitute "creative expression" [Note: Some users in the comments have effectively defended their work as creative. We apologize to those offended. Our decision remains for the other reasons]. Further, such videos may expose Vimeo to liability from the game creator(s), as we have already seen action from popular video game companies against videos such as these.

    2) Gaming videos are by nature significantly larger and longer than any other genre on Vimeo. Over these last few months they have been the single biggest reasons for our transcoder wait times.

    This decision was not easy, and there was much debate internally; however, we feel this decision will benefit Vimeo in the long run and better benefit the video makers it was created for. Our resources are limited and they must be channeled towards maintaining our goals.

    Two questions you might have:

    1) Are my gaming videos going to be deleted?

    Starting today, all new gaming videos are subject to deletion. Videos uploaded before today will be hosted until September 1.

    2) I make Machinima films! It's not the same thing! Am I banned?

    We currently do not feel that Machinima films fall under the category of gaming videos described above and, therefore, assuming compliance with our site�s general terms & conditions, we will continue to accept such videos on Vimeo. We are not, at this time, banning films that fall into the Machinima genre.

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    • imported_Rhino
      Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 1341

      #32
      Re: New Sands of Fire Trailer Released

      as I keep saying and you dont seem to understand, my point still remains that they are still going to loose a chunk of there userbase from it to one of there competitors.

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      • |D|-Jaws

        #33
        Re: New Sands of Fire Trailer Released

        Originally posted by Rhino
        as I keep saying and you dont seem to understand, my point still remains that they are still going to loose a chunk of there userbase from it to one of there competitors.


        What you don't seem to understand is that they don't give a rat's *** about your opinion. Look, I'm on your side. I had videos deleted by them as well. But they don't care. there is a 900+ reply post on their blog with all kinds of folks for and against their decision. They made it back in July. They are not going to modify it anytime soon. You are almost 6 months late to the party.

        Their claim is that gamers make up the smallest portion of their userbase but take up the highest amount of transcoding time. True machinima videos take up the smallest portion of game videos and are artistically commensurate with their goals as a site.

        I think your point has been discussed ad nauseam. These sites are free for you to use....go use another.

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        • imported_Rhino
          Member
          • Dec 2006
          • 1341

          #34
          Re: New Sands of Fire Trailer Released

          do I care if they dont care about my thoughts? no, not really.

          And ye, I know they made this policy like 6months ago, but now since YouTube has HD. All I'm saying is YouTube and other online video sites with HD which many are getting now are just going to benefit from this, as what use to set Viemo apart from the rest was its HD. Now more video sites have HD and its denying part of its user base to upload videos to it, its only going to loose that part of its user base to there main competitors.

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          • |D|-Jaws

            #35
            Re: New Sands of Fire Trailer Released

            Originally posted by Rhino
            do I care if they dont care about my thoughts? no, not really.

            And ye, I know they made this policy like 6months ago, but now since YouTube has HD. All I'm saying is YouTube and other online video sites with HD which many are getting now are just going to benefit from this, as what use to set Viemo apart from the rest was its HD. Now more video sites have HD and its denying part of its user base to upload videos to it, its only going to loose that part of its user base to there main competitors.

            And they are more than content with allowing those folks to go to other sites...so much that they are encouraging it. They do not want crappy gameplay videos on their site. I'm sorry that Project Reality videos are crappy in their eyes.

            I have absolutely nothing to do with that. Go give someone else your business.

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            • DarkDayz

              #36
              Re: New Sands of Fire Trailer Released

              nice, that sound at the beginning is from a Gataka song..'Dreaming Mode' i think.

              cant wait to watch the whole movie.
              will it be 10 minutes long or a full fledged popcorn flick?

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              • Wizrdwarts
                Member
                • Dec 2006
                • 3754

                #37
                Re: New Sands of Fire Trailer Released

                Deal with it. Move on to Youtube HD like you said everyone would. Stop being bitter because they removed your PR videos.

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                • imported_Rhino
                  Member
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 1341

                  #38
                  Re: New Sands of Fire Trailer Released

                  Originally posted by Wizrdwarts
                  Deal with it. Move on to Youtube HD like you said everyone would. Stop being bitter because they removed your PR videos.
                  why dose everyone think I'm being bitter and why dose everyone think I have not moved on....

                  I've said multiple times now that I just believe this is a bad policy for reasons I've stated over and over again in past posts and that is it....

                  Its like talking to the dead here.

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                  • |D|-Jaws

                    #39
                    Re: New Sands of Fire Trailer Released

                    Originally posted by Rhino
                    why dose everyone think I'm being bitter and why dose everyone think I have not moved on....

                    I've said multiple times now that I just believe this is a bad policy for reasons I've stated over and over again in past posts and that is it....

                    Its like talking to the dead here.

                    How many times are you going to continue to spam the boards with the same point?

                    You've made your point, we heard you, we provided feedback, what's more for us to do? Do you need a spanking, a hug, publicly humiliated....?????

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                    • CaptainKirk

                      #40
                      Re: New Sands of Fire Trailer Released

                      Please do not use this thread to bash Vimeo or Youtube or anything else for that matter.

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                      • imported_Rhino
                        Member
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 1341

                        #41
                        Re: New Sands of Fire Trailer Released

                        Originally posted by |D|-Jaws
                        How many times are you going to continue to spam the boards with the same point?

                        You've made your point, we heard you, we provided feedback, what's more for us to do? Do you need a spanking, a hug, publicly humiliated....?????
                        yes, I want a hug....

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