Community Update from EAUK (Squad Hopping)

[ikito]

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umm ok i never did this anyway

[Brindled]

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and the squad leader gets handicapped a few points for his abilities to stay alive and not kill anyone, or do anything but run from arty and every other player that sees him under the uav.

the squad leader really deserves points for staying in a hiding spot, like for every player that spawns off of him he gets a point. he is making the sacrifice of points so that his team can spawn off of him. and as we know, the majority play this game for the points.

[Mobdawwg]

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well, we will just have to wait and see. i dont really like it, but hopefully it wont be so bad......(gulp):cry:

[Kooper]

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Why can't ea/dice leave the damn gameplay mechanics alone and just fix bugs and REAL exploits ffs!

As charlesbian said in a previous post. Most people have gotten used to the way the game plays for the last year.

[imported_Sacramento]

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I have to disagree with this, really. Most of the people are satisfied with how the system works now,atleast the ones i always play with, why do they have to change it just because THEY think it will promote teamwork more...There is even a petition going out signed by thousands of people so they wont change the system. I bet most of them dont even play the game, yet they feel like they have the right to make "drastic" changes to the gameplay.

This is freaking great, WE are the community that plays this game, WE pay more than 80 dollars in their games (Including SF AND EF) to NOT BE HEARD!!! Amazing...

Thanks EA, maybe I should spend 50 more bucks on bf 2142 (or whatever its called) so you can release useless patches that dont even have additional content and just ruin the game with the introduction of more bugs.

O yeah, and whats wrong with creating a sniping squad (when on the US side) on Sharqi Peninsula behind the MEC helipad? Are you saying that doesnt promote teamwork? Well, maybe it doesnt sound like it to many of you but it is a challenge to stay alive after they have spotted you out. It takes good snipers and an effective medic to survive there for a while. As well as a good Eryx shooter to keep some vehicles off your ass.

[Riggz]

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I think people will realize that there are a lot of sh*tty squad leaders out there. I expect to see more lone wolves.

[imported_goya]

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wtf now who asked for this dumb change. why dont they stick to fixing the bugs that we find and not fix what aint broken.

[The Defeatest]

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Sounds great to me!!!!!!
BF community is starting to be a big bunch of babies. The idea is only about creating good gameplay , you know the way the game is supposed to be played?
Everyone bitches about no teamwork and when something comes along to promote it , people feel like the they are being controlled and cant use all their little cheats that they know to one up the next guy.
It's the same whinning IMO as people who hate arty so much. You just cant take the fact that there is an unkown in the game. Thats what makes it soo much fun!!!! Not knowing when that arty could take you and your loved ones out instantly. We need a new thinking process in gaming. New ideas about gameplay that revitalize and get away from the ol' Quake/UT style game play.
So dont bitch about something that is for the overall good of the game.

Ps. and ya fix all the dam bugs first!!!!!!!!!!!

[BIFF EXPLODER]

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wtf now who asked for this dumb change. why dont they stick to fixing the bugs that we find and not fix what aint broken.

exactly.

something tells me they are using bf2 to experiment stuff to put on bf2142, we are all lab rats i guess.

[Rexophane]

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I'm having trouble getting my friends together to play, but a soon as I do I think that the change will be helpful in promoting the idea of teamwork. Its still a pretty idealistic change that probably won't work out for a lot of people, and I'll feel the hurt when I'm playing with people that aren't cooperative. Whenever I'm with a squad leader that just sits and hides, it seems as if I'm the only one willing to spawn with him.

[Sasquatch]

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Right, lets get one thing clear here
The most populair format for competitions (in Europe atleast) is 16 players (8vs8)
In those kind of matches u got 1 comander who usually does nothing but spot, scan and arty leaving 7 who are actually doing the bulletcatching

From those 7 guys on most maps u usually 1 heli/apc and 1 in a tank and those guys wont be spawning on a squad when they die because they need to pick their vehicle up
Leaving 5 guys at most to be in a squad
Everyone still with me here?

the situation at the moment.

Right now "squadhopping" is used to keep the line with 3 or 4 guys while 1 or 2 use a jeep or walk to a strategicly benefitial point (flag, building, whatever)
When the sneaky dude gets there and the friendly flags are safe ppl will spawn on him to begin the assault

If u keep 1 guy on a flag u can spawn those guys fighting somewhere else on that 1 defending guy so it will still be a threat to the enemy if the flag is rushed in a big push (usually meening 4 or 5 guys tops)

All in all it is used in a way that forces teams to always be sharp and alert, not 1 guy should be allowed to break away cuz ull have 5 guys on your doorstep in about 15 seconds


My prediction for the situation after the intended patch is open season for squadleaders.
Kill the SL and u kill the atack, after that just mop up the remaining infantry and put arty on their flags

Spawn blocking is going to get big again, yes spawn blocking
Remember when ur spawnpoint got red and u couldnt spawn no more, and if u could ud just be gunned down every single time because there was only 1 place that ur guy would appear?
Without "squadhopping" ull only need to kill the leader and wait

I am not doubting EA's good intention but the result will be like dropping your soapbar in jail.....
Not a huge deal on a 32 or 64 player server, but 8 vs 8?....

This is THE way to lose your competitive players fast.
Most are still ****ed off because of coneshaped fire, strange delays on grenade launchers, shots that u see hitting the enemy but that do not cause damage on them.

Im not even going to mention airdropped vehicles......

EA, the things you are mentioning in the upcomming patch is a direct spit in the face and utterly insulting

I for one am disgusted and will be waiting with fear in my heart to see how u screw up, yet again.

=TPF=Sasquatch Tooting Populare Front

[imported_XeroStatic]

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This is raising serious issues mainly because this is a staple of competitive gameplay that is getting removed. A team's ability to squad hop effectively and timely was a key ingredient to victory in online competitive play. The result of this patch will totally change the way competitive teams play and may have a negative effect on teams...only time will tell. I personally hate this move and feel that it is another thing that EA and DICE has done to dumb down this game to the newb user.

[Ev!L ErN!E]

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I think this will be a good idea.. I never really squad hoped myself so I'm not worried about it, but I do understand why there making the change, and I think it will be for the best, this way people will have to actually work with there squad instead of jumping around from squad to squad just to help themselves.

[ToneDog]

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again
more encouragement to team play
but doesnt forces it
at the same time less freedom on personal actions are created

though this tweak will help, i believe it won't improve the gameplay to the level they think it would

[troybob]

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again
more encouragement to team play
but doesnt forces it
at the same time less freedom on personal actions are created

less freedom on personal actions? While i agree that this will encourage team-play and DICE's changes, i disagree on that last pointof yours.

I mean - lets face it, if you want to play it like bf1942, just go lonewolf and help your team-mates (or sit around and do your own thing). Because in the end, isn't your team the main squad?

Personal freedom is a staple of the BF series. If I want to, I can just C4 a choke point and yell "allah akbar" when I blow up a vehicle that passes by. I don't have to move around, just hide with my detonator drinkin beer and watchin the Simpsons until I hear a vehicle approach. Now THAT'S freedom

*sings national anthem (in english)*