The two most basic BF2 irritations. Why aren't they sorted?

[kevin_d]

Re: The two most basic BF2 irritations. Why aren't they sorted?

the apc's arent camping, they're providing cover for the infantry. if u have a problem with that at hotel or any other spawn area. SPAWN SOMEWHERE ELSE...unless of course its ur last spawn point, than its just ur problem....as for ppl jumping infront of armor etc. i just wait for a clear path, or for that person to realize that im not going to move until he does and what hes doing is completely pointless

[Deadeye313]

Re: The two most basic BF2 irritations. Why aren't they sorted?

The problem is though, if you take away the tk system or make it that a certain way of tking doesn't affect you (or worse affects the player tked) then you'll have all kinds of griefers running around doing that and switching teams 5 seconds before the end of the round ( they get a win tallied up).

I think the only thing that shouldn't cause a tk is a jet or helicopter. These are the only vehicles where it's either too hard to tk intentionally or when they tk they are 99% most likely doing something that if you weren't around would have helped the team. Like killing a tank with 500lb bombs but you were trying to c4 him. He could never hope to see that happening, and was fulfulling his role. he shouldn't be punished. Also, griefers wouldn't be able to sit on runways because they wanted a plane you took because there wouldn't be a tk.

If the server can show you and your team that you're on a runway, it can be made to determine that being tked by a plane on said runway was probably your fault. It could also probably be programmed to use the method of tk (being run over as opposed to shot or bombed) was most likely an attempt by you to grief the tker and therefore it penalizes you.

all other aspects of tking should be maintained if only to keep griefers in check.

[TheGhost]

Re: The two most basic BF2 irritations. Why aren't they sorted?

Losing points for accidental tk's doesn't bother me that much. Accidents happen, I'll eat the points. It might be nice if it was only -2 though. The guys who are doing it to grief don't care about points anyway, and for the rest of us it wouldn't be so damaging to our score. A lot of times it isn't really avoidable, no reason to torpedo someones score for complete accidents.

Tk's around vehicle spawns are another matter. The easiest answer might just be to make zones around vehicle spawns where FF is turned off. That way if you are waiting at a vehicle spawn and someone on your team shoots you nothing will happen. Pretty much the only time someone will get tk'ed while standing at one of these spawns is when it is 100% intentional, so why not just remove the ability of the griefers to tk you there? If these FF off zones were just kept to small areas around the vehicle spawns I doubt it could really be exploited in any way. Just have it for aircraft, tank, and APC spawns.

In addition to that, aircraft always have the right of way on runways. If a soldier on foot gets in front of an aircraft on a runway it should give them a suicide, because that's exactly what running out onto an active runway is. Same for if they drive a jeep or any other vehicle onto the runway, it counts as a suicide against them. In the case where two aircraft hit over a runway the first person who entered the airspace would be considered to have the right of way, and the person who came into that area second would be given a tk.

Given some of the base rape scripts that can be created on unranked servers I would think these ideas could certainly be coded in, and I think it would go a long way toward fixing some of the shortcomings of the current system.

[MooneyBravo]

Re: The two most basic BF2 irritations. Why aren't they sorted?

Yeah, the players are the biggest irritation by far. Like during a chopper duel and when the other pilot starts losing he rams you. Then in chat calls you a 'noob' and makes fun of your flying while starting a kick vote.

Not to mention the people who flip out for accidental TKs even if you're a medic and revive them while apologizing.

[royaljewellz]

Re: The two most basic BF2 irritations. Why aren't they sorted?

Our server rule is no camping uncap unless you have all the flags and we enforce it.

then i think i might enjoy your server.

[ConscriptVirus]

Re: The two most basic BF2 irritations. Why aren't they sorted?

u cant change ppl

[TheGhost]

Re: The two most basic BF2 irritations. Why aren't they sorted?

Not to mention the people who flip out for accidental TKs even if you're a medic and revive them while apologizing.

Yeah been there. At that point I usually just shoot them again and say "Nevermind, I'm not sorry afterall."

[Deadeye313]

Re: The two most basic BF2 irritations. Why aren't they sorted?

I usually wait till I'm unsaveable before making a decision. If a medic gets to me in time, or I know they were aiming for the enemy I was next to, I'll forgive.

If they punish, though, you could throw a couple of grenades at their corps and make him go from wounded to killed so that the idiothas to wait 15 seconds. I did this once.

[MooneyBravo]

Re: The two most basic BF2 irritations. Why aren't they sorted?

Yeah been there. At that point I usually just shoot them again and say "Nevermind, I'm not sorry afterall."

Glad I'm not the only one.

[imported_bigpappa]

Re: The two most basic BF2 irritations. Why aren't they sorted?

OK Not a BF2 bitching session although like just about everybody out there I concur that BF2 is full of holes. There are however 2 very fundamental faults which drive me up the wall no end and I wanted to guage opinion here.

1. Spawn camping. Getting an APC or tank or jeep or grenades or whatever and just sitting on a spawn point and killing people as they spawn. Why can't there be a 3 second or a 10 metre amnesty? It just drives me up the wall.

2. Assholes, who because you beat them to a tank or whatever, jump out infront of the vehicle so you TK them and then punish you. Perhaps within 20 or 30 meters of the vehicle spawn point -points for TKing should not be possible.

Personally I'd just get rid of the TK minus points system. You get 5 tks in a round and you get kicked no questions, no minus points.

1. spawn somewhere else or quit

2. find a new server or quit and go ride your bike