Is taking out the uss Essex baseraping?

[vets.Sarge]

Well, as the title says, I do it quite alot on maps like wake island so I can safely take out any boats and helo's leaving the carrier.. I never get near the carrier for other reasons, and I only do it once someone starts trying to shoot me down with it.

Opinions please :p

[baggygreen]

Re: Is taking out the uss Essex baseraping?

def not mate thats fair game

[Lanserschrek]

Re: Is taking out the uss Essex baseraping?

Interesting question. I consider the AA on the Essex fair game but I won't touch the rest of the carrier as I consider that base raping. Generally the AA is after you anyway so that declares open season on it.

[unununium]

Re: Is taking out the uss Essex baseraping?

Yeah anything that attacks you is free to be attacked. Anyone that whines that someone is shooting back at them should be ejected from the game immediately.

[|ASNL|Ragamuffin]

Re: Is taking out the uss Essex baseraping?

Yah, the servers I play on don't allow you to attack uncaps with vechiles, excluding aircraft taking out AA.

[TheGhost]

Re: Is taking out the uss Essex baseraping?

It shouldn't be but it gets abused a lot. I've seen admins who sit in the Essex AA and engage any enemy plane that comes within range, but if the enemy plane attacks them back they accuse them of base rape and ban them. Even if the plane has been ignoring the carrier the whole round, and only came into range because it was chasing a US plane or helo.

I've personally been warned several times for chasing smoking helos and jets back to the carrier and killing them just as they got there. These were aircraft that had already been out attacking my team and were running back for repairs, but I was accused of base raping because by the time I caught up to them they happened to be "near" the carrier. The no base rape clause in the ROE should not exist at all, but if it is going to be there it needs to be worded much more clearly with more detail on what can and can't be restricted. As it stands it is abused constantly by idiot admins who bend and stretch the rules to unbalance the game in their favor when they are playing on the side with the uncap.

[imported_TheDragon]

Re: Is taking out the uss Essex baseraping?

well gents
any server that Bans for attacking Un-caps
is violating EA rules
we used to kick for attacking un-caps until all other bases were taken
but have since studied EA rules
and have determined that adding server rules viloted rules
eg no different than knife only, etc
so now we post in game
"attack any base anytime"
we do, however prohibit SPAWN CAMPING
which we define as aiming your weapon directly at a spawn point

[[2bit]Modmaven]

Re: Is taking out the uss Essex baseraping?

The Essex is a real threat.....take it out. It is pretty lame to bomb the runway and crap like that though.

[LasVegas]

Re: Is taking out the uss Essex baseraping?

for my two pennies, the 2 aa sites on the carrier are fair game, the deck is not, however, should a helo or plane unstick itself from the deck, anymore than 3 feet, its game too. and if they have no flags and its the last part of the game, then the carrier gets nailed all over from everyone, too bad, shoulda hauled ass and got some flags.

[=IMO=PFCBerkeley]

Re: Is taking out the uss Essex baseraping?

well gents
any server that Bans for attacking Un-caps
is violating EA rules
we used to kick for attacking un-caps until all other bases were taken
but have since studied EA rules
and have determined that adding server rules viloted rules
eg no different than knife only, etc
so now we post in game
"attack any base anytime"
we do, however prohibit SPAWN CAMPING
which we define as aiming your weapon directly at a spawn point

Actually the rules clearly state that an admin can kick or ban for:
§ Artillery fire or bombing runs on main (uncapturable) bases may be prohibited.
§ Prolonged or sustained attacks on main (uncapturable) bases (i.e. spawncamping).

Its just up to the admins to keep a standard there, and enforce it at all times. Unfortunately for some, there will be servers where the rule is that once the enemy aircraft is close to the carrier it shouldn't be attacked.

On our server, if it attacks you its fair game, but you aren't allowed to camp the uncaps until all other flags have been taken. So for we haven't gotten any complaints that I know of.

[CaptJordus]

Re: Is taking out the uss Essex baseraping?

well gents
any server that Bans for attacking Un-caps
is violating EA rules
we used to kick for attacking un-caps until all other bases were taken
but have since studied EA rules
and have determined that adding server rules viloted rules
eg no different than knife only, etc
so now we post in game
"attack any base anytime"
we do, however prohibit SPAWN CAMPING
which we define as aiming your weapon directly at a spawn point

It does NOT violate the ROE to kick/ban someone for attacking an upcap. The ROE states its a SERVER option to make such rules like no bombing uncaps, no jihad jeeps, etc.

[Sir. Shpox]

Re: Is taking out the uss Essex baseraping?

No. Let me put it in another view: Taking out something that can kill you is not baseraping. May as land near the essex, hope out and throw flowers at the damn thing if it is baseraping.

[vets.Sarge]

Re: Is taking out the uss Essex baseraping?

Well, I'm glad that at least you lot agree with me, unlike plenty of server admins.. :|:

[TheGhost]

Re: Is taking out the uss Essex baseraping?

Actually the rules clearly state that an admin can kick or ban for:
§ Artillery fire or bombing runs on main (uncapturable) bases may be prohibited.
§ Prolonged or sustained attacks on main (uncapturable) bases (i.e. spawncamping).

There is a key part of those rules that gets glossed over by many admins. The words prolonged and sustained.

[Tenshi]

Re: Is taking out the uss Essex baseraping?

well gents
any server that Bans for attacking Un-caps
is violating EA rules

Thats a very good point. Funny how many things are widely outlawed (like pistol only servers) and somethings are taken as norm (antibase raping) but any rule imposed is a breach of EA rules.