Basecamper haters unite!

[N2K]

Re: Basecamper haters unite!

Well this one time a tank and an apc came rushing in as eng so they wouldnt die, they were driving straight with thier turrets turned around, i walk up to them, not running, put c4s on both, and BOOM

Neither are the people who don't run to cover after getting killed twice in a row with a Tank. Instead most of them try to rush me, and you will never win rushing a tank.

You can either spawn at a different post, but if there is no more flags and have no choice, its hard to cover when you are first spawning in.

[=LAF=Ronald]

Re: Basecamper haters unite!

<3 baserape

[Dlab37]

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actually i love to basecamp. I go throw mines on the planes and tanks so there bobby traped sort of reminds me of the BF V days. Or i go as sniper and i kill everyone as they run into tanks

[oaKenfoLd]

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Denial of equipment is one of the biggest benefits of spawn raping.

The Allies never complied with the German pilots pleas of "wtf noob, at least let me take off", and neither do I. No Allies ever captured a German tank and said "You know what, this doesen't belong to us, lets go ahead and leave it for the dirty Nazis".

Steal, rape, camp...as long as the W comes at the end of the round.

[Sadistic_1]

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There we go. Now this is starting to sound more like the old BF1942 Desert Combat days. None of this "over-powered, under-powered" weapons talk. It's all about the nuances of legit tactics over fairplay.

I used to complain about base raping when I first started playing DC. Then I joined a clan and realized it's one of the most important tactics in a match. Since then, I don't really care one way or the other. I don't look to do it, but I'm not going to stand around waiting if my team has pushed the other team back to their main and is spawn-raping the hell out of them. It gets boring, and quite frankly I want to kill people.

[TheGhost]

Re: Basecamper haters unite!

Bases help with tickets, but deaths count for 2 tickets a piece.

No, a death costs the team one ticket, not two. I agree with the post though, people need to stop crying about so called base rape and play the damn game.

[ghaib]

Re: Basecamper haters unite!

it's called "BASRAPING"... camping is something else...

[HowieMandel]

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Remember, the objective is tickets, not bases. Bases help with tickets, but deaths count for 2 tickets a piece

Wow, the objective are tickets. And here i thought all those flags, that were white, at the start of a round, were the objectives. Man......no wonder i've been screwing up.
Geez, glad to see someone here read the bf2 manual and alerted me that, no the flags are not the objective.....
Thanks Dude!!

Yeah........sarcasm.

[oaKenfoLd]

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You can have every flag at the end of Karkand and still lose. The game is based on tickets, and white flags represent one method to reduce enemy tickets.

Are you aware of how many flags you need to cause ticket bleed on 32 player Karkand? There is no ticket bleed until USMC captures every flag and caps MEC out.

The game is based on ticket count, and part of that is kills and part of it is flags. Don't be an idiot.

[HowieMandel]

Re: Basecamper haters unite!

I used to complain about base raping when I first started playing DC. Then I joined a clan and realized it's one of the most important tactics in a match. Since then, I don't really care one way or the other. I don't look to do it, but I'm not going to stand around waiting if my team has pushed the other team back to their main and is spawn-raping the hell out of them. It gets boring, and quite frankly I want to kill people.

Your absolutly right. In some tournament, or match between clans, on a private server....main base raping is a legit and necessary tactic.
Not on a pub........though. I mean........gezuz.

[Lith1um]

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People who rape the uncapable spawn are the special education kids of the internet.

I would be more impressed if they were actualy applying skills on the battlefield. As it is they just line up to suck a big fat titty. A monkey can be trained to mimic this behaviour.

[HowieMandel]

Re: Basecamper haters unite!

You can have every flag at the end of Karkand and still lose. The game is based on tickets, and white flags represent one method to reduce enemy tickets.

Are you aware of how many flags you need to cause ticket bleed on 32 player Karkand? There is no ticket bleed until USMC captures every flag and caps MEC out.

The game is based on ticket count, and part of that is kills and part of it is flags. Don't be an idiot.

I think i might have been to broad. Im not an idiot, douschbag. Sorry not sure if your a doushbag or not, but then again....... im an idiot im guessing.
Sorry the objective is control of a map, which is flags. You should read. Im not wrong. Tickets are the basis of figureing out whos winning or not....and yes you dont need to control the flags to win. But the object of the game is to control the majority of the flags. Sorry, your wrong, im right. Douschbag. Or are you? (hey i dont know, im just assuming)

[oaKenfoLd]

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I think i might have been to broad. Im not an idiot, douschbag. Sorry not sure if your a doushbag or not, but then again....... im an idiot im guessing.
Sorry the objective is control of a map, which is flags. You should read. Im not wrong. Tickets are the basis of figureing out whos winning or not....and yes you dont need to control the flags to win. But the object of the game is to control the majority of the flags. Sorry, your wrong, im right. Douschbag. Or are you? (hey i dont know, im just assuming)

The objective is to make your enemies tickets reach 0, thats it. However you do it, whichever method for the map you're playing and makes it happen, that is the objective.

It is easier on Karkand, for example, to get one base and rape from covered "camping" posiions to win than if you spread out over all the bases to take and defend.

[[MyIS]Spetsnaz]

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People who rape the uncapable spawn are the special education kids of the internet.

Are you calling me a special educated kid of the internet? I surely hope not, considering I probably no more about "the internet" in my left pinky :)

Anyhoo, spawn camping and spawn raping are perfectly valid tactics. We need to rely on the developers to create a game that is fair for both sides. If they fail in doing so, you cannot blame the gamer for playing to win .. since that is the point of the game (any game for that matter).

Fortunately, the game is very well balanced to give you plenty of opportunities to win. If you get spawn camped/raped it is only your fault.

For example:

Strike At Karkand gives you 3 spawns as the US. If you get spawn camped in one area, spawn somewhere else. If you every uncappable flag is getting spawn camped (very rare), you will need to fight your way out. The fact their nearest spawn is so far away only makes it more difficult for them to send in reinforcements. I have never seen a good team get spawn camped/raped ... ever.

You'll notice that the team being spawn camped rarely chooses the class that it needs to stop the camp. If 2 tanks and 2 apcs are raping your spawn, it's extremely easy to kill them -- provided that nearly all of your troops spawn as an AT. 1 AT rocket per soldier will be more than enough. On the flipside, you see snipers spawning. Additionally, you have a commander who can drop artillery. If you are getting killed as you spawn, help your team out by spawning as Assault and dropping smoke to give your AT guys a shot and firing back.

This is why Sports games have referees. If they didn't, both teams would never agree as to what is fair and what is not. Same goes for the Olympics, Chess or any other type of game. In a video game, the referee is the game itself and, in some cases, the server admins.

As long as you are not modifying the mechanics of the game (changing/injecting code), anything is valid.

We all know where the above argument usually leads ... "if anything goes, what about exploits huh? huh? huh?". That is a difficult question, because what people define an exploit as is something that the developers "didnt mean for you to do in the game" ... but how does one what know what the developer does or does not want you to do? How does the average joe know what was intended in this game?

The answer to such questions is simple ... spawn camping/raping validity depends on the server -- EA said so themselves.

In the ROE for servers, they are allowed to setup rules such as "No spawn camping". This means that EA knows that spawn camping is unfair to the new players who do not know what to do, but is also unfair to the veteran players who don't feel like they should cut anyone some slack just because they're new.

The moral of the story is:

Find a server that allows spawn camping/raping and have fun. If you get kicked, it is allowed. If you keep getting kicked from servers for spawn camping/raping, join the many online tournaments available or join a clan and get in a ladder.

Personally, I love the free kills you get from a good spawn rape. If it's a competitive match, it feels even better (payback). However, in a public server, I usually focus on defending the flags and don't waste my time killing people as they spawn... I do have my moments though :)

[slam69]

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Spawn camping the funniest part of the game. have fun when you spawn camp, using armor is fun but not as fun as c4, and heck sure as not fun as blasting someone in the back with the hot gun.!