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  • {Sn][per}Soul

    #1

    Stats padders why does it matter?

    Preface

    Purpose of this document:

    This document explains the Rules of Engagement that all Ranked Servers and Players must follow.


    1 GLOBALLY ENFORCED RANKED SERVER RULES

    These are rules that all administrators and players using ranked servers are expected to observe and are set by EA, BF2RS under the EULA/TOS/RSA/ROE.

    §1.1 You may not arrange for the exchange or transfer of any pirated software or other contraband while you are on any Ranked Servers.

    * § This would include the copy and distribution of copyrighted software or cd-keys

    §1.2 You may not market, promote or advertise anything, or make any other form of solicitation (this does not apply to trusted partners and in game server messages) on any ranked servers.

    * § Trusted Partners and Advertisers are excluded from this ruling.

    §1.3 You may not change (hack) any core games files, load into memory or employ external programs or cheats for the purposes of giving yourself an unfair advantage over other players.

    This would include but not limited to:

    * § MSX and other 3rd party software.
    * § Modification of weapons code, aka Tank turrets exploit.
    * § CVAR hacks which would make players appear Neon
    * § CVAR hacks that let players see thru walls or buildings
    * § Mini-Map hack so all players are visible
    * § Modification of Player Names which would alter their size or colors.
    * § Items not included in this list would be up to EA & DICE to interpret.

    §1.4 Server administrators may not change any game settings defined as standard for ranked servers (ticket ratios, server password, round time, etc.)


    §1.5 Server administrators may not explicitly or implicitly (by actions) enforce restrictions on vehicles or weapons that players can use while on your server (e.g. knives only, aircraft prohibited except for clan members, etc.)

    * § Infantry only Servers
    * § Kicking Players who use vehicles or aircraft
    * § Limiting certain vehicles or aircraft for non clan members

    §1.6 Server administrators may not explicitly or implicitly (by actions) enforce restrictions on roles or kits that players can use while on your server.

    This would include but not limited to:

    * § Spec Ops
    * § Squad Leader
    * § Note.. Commander class can not be enforced due to the § 2.3 rule change

    §1.7 Server administrators may not use non-standard (custom map packs) maps or modified versions of standard maps.

    §1.8 Players may not use or exploit game mechanisms to artificially boost their score ("stats padding") and Server administrators may not knowingly allow or encourage this activity on their servers.

    This would include but not limited to:

    * § Knife-Pistol-Revive
    * § Knife-Pistol only Servers
    * § Knife only Servers
    * § High Points Servers
    * § Infantry only Servers
    * § No Artillery or Armour Servers
    * § Using Vehicles removed from battlefield for purposes of artificially inflating points
    * § Turning boats upside down and repairing
    * § Glitching inside buildings.
    * § Modifying game files for vehicles and weapons.
    * § Items not included in this list would be up to EA & DICE to interpret.

    §1.9 Players may not Impersonate or abuse BF2RS ADMINS.

    §1.10 Server administrators will not go to ANY public or clan ranked server and threaten or bully any clan or clan administrator.

    * § Admins are to only observe and report back to their department head
    * § Admins will not contact or interfere in clan ranked servers
    * § Admins will at no time contact any trusted provider
    * § Admins at no time will state rules if they see violations
    * § Admins who do not follow this procedure will immediately be fired
    * § These rules do not apply to contract servers we have with trusted providers

    §1.20 GLOBAL CONFIGURATON SETTINGS – ALL RANKED SERVERS

    * § Min Players: 16
    * § sv.password = empty string. Ranked servers may not be password protected. Ranked servers are intended to be available to all players.
    * § sv.numPlayersNeededToStart = (6 for maxPlayers 16, 10 for 32, 10 for 64)
    * § sv.spawnTime 15
    * § sv.manDownTime 15
    * § sv.ticketRatio 100
    * § sv.teamRatioPercent 100
    * § sv.punkBuster 1
    * § Though it is not required, EA requests that all servers run Friendly Fire at 100% for all settings, including mines (sv.friendlyFireWithMines).
    * § Ranked servers must be entirely "pure" with no customization outside of the default content shipped by DICE/EA. Ranked servers will not be allowed to run Mods or CustomMaps, as we cannot ensure the balance of these components. Custom maps are never permitted.

    §1.21 TK PUNISHMENT

    * § Option A: TK punish is optional for the player by using the pgup/pgdn voting system.
    * § Option B: TK punish is to be set to automatic or on, but may not be set to off.


    2 EA OFFICIAL PUBLIC SERVER RULES

    These are rules that EA official server administrators enforce to maintain friendly, disciplined servers and are in addition to the global rules defined above.


    §2.1 You may not use any offensive or sexually explicit language in chat or voice mode.

    §2.2 You may not use foul or slanderous language involving race, gender, sexual preference, religion or creed.

    §2.3 You may not deliberately hinder your own team or acting in such as way as to cause team mates unavoidable deaths or team losses.

    * § Commander flying or in a vehicle instead of commanding
    * § Destruction of friendly vehicles
    * § Excessive team killing
    * § Team switching to gain medals or awards

    You may not display abusive behaviour towards administrators. If you feel that you have been treated unfairly, you may lodge an appeal on the official forums

    * § BF2 Ranked Servers Forums
    * § King Dave admin@bf2rankedservers.com Director
    * § IndianScout admin@bf2rankedservers.com Assistant Director

    3 LOCAL (PRIVATELY RENTED) RANKED SERVER RULES MODIFICATIONS

    These are rules that are not enforced upon in EA’s public ranked servers but may be modified in privately rented ranked servers. These rules are decided by clan administrators for those servers and as long as they do not contradict any global rules enforced by EA are considered valid for those servers.

    This would include but not limited to:

    * § Artillery fire or bombing runs on main (uncapturable) bases may be prohibited.
    * § Prolonged or sustained attacks on main (uncapturable) bases (i.e. spawncamping).
    * § Using the Transport Helicopters to take flags (Blackhawk whoring or flag hopping).
    * § Impersonating clan members.
    * § Using C4 on jeeps, or other fast moving vehicles to take out other vehicles.
    * § Clans may change or customise rules, provided they don’t violate the above ROE rules.

    See you on the battlefield

    Authors

    EA
    Combat Studios
    BF2RS
    King Dave
    IndianScout
    So there is the ROE for BF2 ranked servers as it seems many of you pretend to have read it but alot of what you say is in there, isn't.

    Also I've been seeing alot of complaints about admins kicking you becuase you won't do infantry only or complaining about stats padders in Knife and Pistol only servers. Thing is any of you that have played on a "High Point Server" are breaking the ROE as well. Also on the note of Knife and Pistol servers, What are so bad about these? Its not really stat padding considering people that suck will still get low scores and people that are good will still get good scores. As for badges do they really matter? If you spend your time being jelous of some one having a there expert pistol/knife badge because they got it on a knife server then I think your taking the ranking system a little to hard.

    When an admin says lets do Infantry only and 95% of the server agrees that would be fun doen't be a douche bag and use the tank because EA says you can. Go play else where. Everyone is playing the game to have fun and one person being an ass ruins it for everyone. Many of you probably haven't played on a pistol and knife server and ranked or unranked there one of the funnest thing in BF2 to do the only problem is its hard to get anyone on a unranked server.

    One last thing I don't get about alot of people here on the forum is why do you care that other people are stats padding? I play the game for fun not for the stats. The stats are something to look at to see how well you do. These people are spending hours of time not having fun at all just to increase there score and this doesn't affect you in the slightest. If anything stats padding is a good thing, It keeps people that would normally be hacking and destroying the game busy! If you read the Myg0t forums for BF2 people are more interested in stats padding then hacking as in comparision to the CSS forums where everyone wants hacks (Lame).

    As for stats padding to get unlocks to get all you need 50,000 which is alot but to get all but 2 its only 20,000 which isn't that hard to get if you play regularly.
  • Alcorr

    #2
    Re: Stats padders why does it matter?

    I agree and disagree about servers making up thier own rules.

    Its perfectly acceptable for admins to make up thier own server rules.....on UNranked servers.

    Ranked servers are ranked and have rules. If you want your server to stay ranked you will follow the ROE. Don't like the ROE? Complain to EA.

    If you want to play special rules thats fine....just remember, you are risking a shutdown by EA, otherwise, just make an unranked server....just remember no one will join lol.

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    • SpecialEdForces

      #3
      Re: Stats padders why does it matter?

      It doesn't matter to me, stats are for NOOBS

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      • Sir. Shpox

        #4
        Re: Stats padders why does it matter?

        Originally posted by SpecialEdForces
        It doesn't matter to me, stats are for NOOBS
        Seconded,

        However there are many people who play for points or bragging rights, not just for fun, they must get the highest score. Eg. Blazin.Uk. To them, actions have to be taken against stat padders.

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        • redrider

          #5
          Re: Stats padders why does it matter?

          Just one small comment, doesnt section 1.8 say that you are not supposed to run a knife and pistol server? It does say that along with a few other things.
          The only bad behavior that it sayes is ok is spawn camping, It does say you shouldnt do it all round long, but its up to the server admin to limit it. It also defines spawn camping as prolonged and sustained attacks on uncaptureable bases.
          Two last interesting points, it sayes in section 2.3 that commanders shouldnt use vehicles and team switching is prohibited. The reason it gives is that it hinders the teams ability to win. . . . . . . .Red

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          • SpecialEdForces

            #6
            Re: Stats padders why does it matter?

            Originally posted by redrider
            Just one small comment, doesnt section 1.8 say that you are not supposed to run a knife and pistol server? It does say that along with a few other things.
            The only bad behavior that it sayes is ok is spawn camping, It does say you shouldnt do it all round long, but its up to the server admin to limit it. It also defines spawn camping as prolonged and sustained attacks on uncaptureable bases.
            Two last interesting points, it sayes in section 2.3 that commanders shouldnt use vehicles and team switching is prohibited. The reason it gives is that it hinders the teams ability to win. . . . . . . .Red
            Commanders using vehicles does not hinder a teams ability to win, commanders using vehicles and not commanding whilst doing so hinders a teams ability to win, some people can actually do both at the same time wonderfully

            And now that I've read that part it does not even say that the commanders can't use vehicles, just that they can't use vehicles and disregard their duties

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            • redrider

              #7
              Re: Stats padders why does it matter?

              I guess you can twist it anyway you want. Ive yet to see a team win, with the help of a commander that was flying or in armor. You cant command when your dead. As you know everyone in the game gets killed and chances are greater that you will be killed if your in combat. . . . . . . .Red

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              • SpecialEdForces

                #8
                Re: Stats padders why does it matter?

                Originally posted by redrider
                I guess you can twist it anyway you want. Ive yet to see a team win, with the help of a commander that was flying or in armor. You cant command when your dead. As you know everyone in the game gets killed and chances are greater that you will be killed if your in combat. . . . . . . .Red
                lol, I like you red, you're funny, you've seriously never seen a commander in a vehicle and also had the team win? I totally did it earlier today on wake, I was in an armor protecting our airfield and at the same time putting up UAV and spotting enemies with scans ZOMG!!!!! I even used the artillery?!?!?!? :p
                lol, you need to get around a lil more my friend, and just for the record my sweet, I totally would let you have the tank if you asked me for it yo, cuz I like you that much

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                • xZeler8

                  #9
                  Re: Stats padders why does it matter?

                  a good commander hiding somewhere and commanding will do a better job than a good commander in a vehicle, every single time...not only that, but the difference in quality between the two is astounding...there is no way to argue that fact

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                  • SpecialEdForces

                    #10
                    Re: Stats padders why does it matter?

                    Originally posted by xZeler8
                    a good commander hiding somewhere and commanding will do a better job than a good commander in a vehicle, every single time...not only that, but the difference in quality between the two is astounding...there is no way to argue that fact
                    Yes there is and here I go

                    You are wrong

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                    • Arkasha

                      #11
                      Re: Stats padders why does it matter?

                      Originally posted by SpecialEdForces
                      Yes there is and here I go

                      You are wrong

                      That's not an argument, it's merely a denial.

                      Try again.

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                      • JonnyMacFred102
                        Member
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 1995

                        #12
                        Re: Stats padders why does it matter?

                        Servers should be allowed to change certain rules, such as tk punish and friendlyfire for mines.

                        I don't see why that is a problem. Besides, if you have good admins, tk punish is useless and not having it will result in nobody being kicked on accident.

                        If there are no admins normally on the server, simply keep tk punish on.

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                        • imported_ExtraSolar

                          #13
                          Re: Stats padders why does it matter?

                          This is the misconception about Knife/Pistol servers. You think that there is nothing else to it. In reality, everyone goes Medic and revives all of the dying players. As you know, this can rack up points real quick. I did this 1 time before just to see what it was all about. I picked up 147 points in a matter of 10 - 15 minutes as a Medic. It might not say statpadding in the server name, but it is god damn statpadding plain and simple.

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                          • {Sn][per}Soul

                            #14
                            Re: Stats padders why does it matter?

                            Its kind of unfair to the server owner though on the fact that a 32 man ranked server can be from $80-$140 yet they are limited on what rules they are allowed to have on the server. All they get is to be able to kick people that are TKing or being a jerk. Which really doesn't seem worth the money. I really hope in BF2142 and Quake Wars they scrap the stats or they make it so every sever is ranked and can post there own rules.

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                            • baroque

                              #15
                              Re: Stats padders why does it matter?

                              People who cheat or abuse the system by e.g statpadding are so damn funny, they want to get the big scores, but noone gives a **** about it, really, who looks at other people's stats? NOONE. Want to get scores to please yourself? damn geek get a life.

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