So Do claymores teamkill or not??

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  • IntensivCareBear

    #1

    So Do claymores teamkill or not??

    Its extremely odd, with the 1.22 patch ive seen both sides of the issue....

    i was taking off a jet aircraft with friendly mines on the runway and BOOM tk..... i was initially joyful that dice came to their senses and fixed the problem.. but later

    karkand and mashtuur seemed to be as claymore whored as ever, with a disproportionate number of bunny hopping claymore dispensers.

    how ever, i watched a teammate come up the staircase and detonate my claymore, causing a tk. no enemy was nearby to detonate it.

    those 2 instances had me believing that claymores were finally fixed..... however, now i see claymores everywhere in enemy bases with no reprecussions...
  • lil_jimmy_norton

    #2
    Re: So Do claymores teamkill or not??

    It's a server option.

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    • TGL|Badlizzard
      TGL Anti-Cheat Director
      • Jan 2005
      • 1380

      #3
      Re: So Do claymores teamkill or not??

      Yeah, server has the option, so depending where you play it will change.

      sv.fiendlyfirewithmines 1 (=on)
      sv.fiendlyfirewithmines 0 (=off)

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      • Papi4baby
        Member
        • Aug 2005
        • 1189

        #4
        Re: So Do claymores teamkill or not??

        Server option but it is also a bit bug, i have gotten tk by clays after the person who laid it down die, i seen it happen to me too.

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        • claevade

          #5
          Re: So Do claymores teamkill or not??

          I have seen it a lot of times in 1.22, and I really thought I filtered the server option out with ASE. It's just so painful to find it out the hard way all the time.

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          • WolfAlmighty
            Artillery Magnet
            • Jan 2007
            • 2113

            #6
            Re: So Do claymores teamkill or not??

            You can still get TKed by a claymore if you are in range of the explosion when an enemy sets it off, you just can't set it off yourself.

            Also, it's interesting to note that if you pick up an enemy sniper kit, drop his clays, and then pick your old kit back up again, they will actually be 'hostile' clays, even though they appear as friendly. Meaning, they show up with a red skull and crossbones like a friendly clay, only they can kill you like an enemy's one would (and the kill would be credited to whomever had the kit originally, unless multiple kit exchanges went on, then it would go to whoever 'ended up' with that kit).

            ~Wolfgang

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            • ptegan
              Member
              • Jul 2006
              • 2666

              #7
              Re: So Do claymores teamkill or not??

              Originally posted by SaUrOn
              I have seen it a lot of times in 1.22, and I really thought I filtered the server option out with ASE. It's just so painful to find it out the hard way all the time.
              It's not possible to filter it out in ASE (AFAIK) as the sv.fiendlyfirewithmines info isnt provided by the server.

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              • MidnightOps

                #8
                Re: So Do claymores teamkill or not??

                If TKing is off for mines and claymores, you can still get team killed by a claymore if you're close enough to the blast when an enemy gets killed by one.

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                • IntensivCareBear

                  #9
                  Re: So Do claymores teamkill or not??

                  thats incredibly queer.

                  urban maps still ruined, i prefer noob tubes and pkm whoring to claymores definitely.... EA really needs to go out play, and find how much urban maps are ruined by claymores.

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                  • Jim345

                    #10
                    Re: So Do claymores teamkill or not??

                    I think your overexagerating they don't ruin urban maps at all. I don't see claymore mines wherever I turn around. Its not like there everywhere or anything.
                    Your being a little knitpicky if you ask me...... which you didn't

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                    • raceacontari

                      #11
                      Re: So Do claymores teamkill or not??

                      They can still TK with FF turned off for the mines/claymore option...if a badguy walks in front of a claymore and at the same time a friendly is in the same radius, boom, both dead lol. Happened to me a while a go, and of course I was promptly punished...*rolls eyes*

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                      • Leki
                        Member
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 361

                        #12
                        Re: So Do claymores teamkill or not??

                        Originally posted by ptegan
                        It's not possible to filter it out in ASE (AFAIK) as the sv.fiendlyfirewithmines info isnt provided by the server.
                        Is there any way to tell before or after you have joined a server to know if its set to off or on?.....or do you just have to place a mine down and just wait for the TKs to find out?

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                        • ptegan
                          Member
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 2666

                          #13
                          Re: So Do claymores teamkill or not??

                          Sorry Leki but the only way to find out (unless someone can tell me otherwise) is to test it yourself when you join a server.

                          When this option first came with patch 1.12 (I think?) it was set at "sv.friendlyFireWithMines 0" but then when everyone complained about claymores the 1.21 patch set sv.friendlyFireWithMines to 1 by default instead. Server admins can easily change it though if someone tells them how to :)

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                          • IntensivCareBear

                            #14
                            Re: So Do claymores teamkill or not??

                            i dunno, i play 35 minutes a day, and ever since 1.2 its been chock full of claymores..... as in dont go around corners.... or near bushes.... actually, just read my sig. makes it painfully clear how invincible, super intelligent claymores almost entirely ruin urban games.

                            course, vehicles are still around, and claymores are the biggest reason for me learning to fly well and trying to find APCs and tanks, which i never did before.

                            we should get a list of servers that have claymore tk turned on. would really make urban maps actually fun again.

                            of course, my stint testing the claymore option was fun, but not as fun as shooting people used to be.....

                            remember how different bf2 was

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                            • poisonsoul

                              #15
                              Re: So Do claymores teamkill or not??

                              It's possible to TK with a claymore or AT mine.

                              However, the only way I know how to TK is have an enemy and friendly fighting right in front of it.

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