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  • abtomat74

    #1

    new jet, bad allignment?

    Did anyone at EA actually fly the new plane before releasing it to the public?

    I hopped into the Eurotrash(new name until it's fixed) and took off...first thing I notice is that it pulls to the right. Maybe my joystick needs calibration...nope, because I fly with mouse/kb!

    Fly over to the MiG hanger to check its allignment, perfect, as always. Head back over to the Eurotrash and try again...same problem, pulls to the right constantly...and it feels extremely nose heavy and tries to dive at the same rate it pulls right.

    Try this, fly forward and yaw right...moves quickly doesn't it? Now fly forward and yaw left...moves at 75% or less of the speed the right yaw offered.

    Let me guess, this is a design of the actual Eurofighter in case the pilot falls asleep. The plane yaws to one side and down so he can bump into something and wake up?

    Awesome, we have a natural NASCAR fighter plane to play with, yay. Please fix immediately, it obviously shouldn't be this way.
  • Jackass

    #2
    Re: new jet, bad allignment?

    Indeed, experienced myself of all you mentioned above.

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    • Banthur

      #3
      Re: new jet, bad allignment?

      why the hell would they fly them before they sold it to you?

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      • Alcorr

        #4
        Re: new jet, bad allignment?

        why the hell would they fly them before they sold it to you?
        WOW....umm normally they test software before they sell it thats how the world works....

        Unless you thought he literally meant for them to go and hop into a real jet?

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        • abtomat74

          #5
          Re: new jet, bad allignment?

          Thanks for the confirmation.

          I also want to add that I had less than 5 minutes to test EF before leaving for work(right now).

          The very first thing I did was get into the eurofighter...I discovered this bug in less than 20 seconds. How did it escape months of testing?

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          • Banthur

            #6
            Re: new jet, bad allignment?

            Originally posted by Alcorr
            WOW....umm normally they test software before they sell it thats how the world works....

            Unless you thought he literally meant for them to go and hop into a real jet?
            You'd think after quoting me in your sig you'd get used to my sarcasm :P

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            • Alcorr

              #7
              Re: new jet, bad allignment?

              You'd think after quoting me in your sig you'd get used to my sarcasm :P
              When I quoted you, you weren't being sarcastic....

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              • Banthur

                #8
                Re: new jet, bad allignment?

                yeah I was, a lot of language is lost in typing

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                • Alcorr

                  #9
                  Re: new jet, bad allignment?

                  yeah I was, a lot of language is lost in typing
                  The quote I have in my sig now is all of the words you ever posted in that thread.....

                  Not to mention the quote had nothing to do with the actual subject of the thread.

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                  • Bigtime834

                    #10
                    Re: new jet, bad allignment?

                    Originally posted by abtomat74
                    Did anyone at EA actually fly the new plane before releasing it to the public?

                    I hopped into the Eurotrash(new name until it's fixed) and took off...first thing I notice is that it pulls to the right. Maybe my joystick needs calibration...nope, because I fly with mouse/kb!

                    Fly over to the MiG hanger to check its allignment, perfect, as always. Head back over to the Eurotrash and try again...same problem, pulls to the right constantly...and it feels extremely nose heavy and tries to dive at the same rate it pulls right.

                    Try this, fly forward and yaw right...moves quickly doesn't it? Now fly forward and yaw left...moves at 75% or less of the speed the right yaw offered.

                    Let me guess, this is a design of the actual Eurofighter in case the pilot falls asleep. The plane yaws to one side and down so he can bump into something and wake up?

                    Awesome, we have a natural NASCAR fighter plane to play with, yay. Please fix immediately, it obviously shouldn't be this way.
                    EA what were they thinking, thats to bad I am certainly disappointed

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                    • colony

                      #11
                      Re: new jet, bad allignment?

                      Originally posted by abtomat74
                      Did anyone at EA actually fly the new plane before releasing it to the public?

                      I hopped into the Eurotrash(new name until it's fixed) and took off...first thing I notice is that it pulls to the right. Maybe my joystick needs calibration...nope, because I fly with mouse/kb!

                      Fly over to the MiG hanger to check its allignment, perfect, as always. Head back over to the Eurotrash and try again...same problem, pulls to the right constantly...and it feels extremely nose heavy and tries to dive at the same rate it pulls right.

                      Try this, fly forward and yaw right...moves quickly doesn't it? Now fly forward and yaw left...moves at 75% or less of the speed the right yaw offered.

                      Let me guess, this is a design of the actual Eurofighter in case the pilot falls asleep. The plane yaws to one side and down so he can bump into something and wake up?

                      Awesome, we have a natural NASCAR fighter plane to play with, yay. Please fix immediately, it obviously shouldn't be this way.

                      The eurofighter is definitely a very good Air to air jet, better than the Mig. Its just slower(not a big deal as it has lots of AB) and harder to handle. The bombs are on the far side of the wings so when you drop them, they start out wider, but if you drop them high enough, both will hit target as they slowly fall into place with eachother.

                      Advantages:
                      better turning = better dogfighter than Mig, F35, FA18 (not sure about J10)

                      disadvantages:
                      slower than other fighters, goes about same speed as the bombers in cruise
                      hard to hit ground targets

                      Overall I like it alot. It takes great skill to keep it under control especially going after ground targets, which is not its primary objective anyway.

                      Its unstable for the better agility. It turns better than Migs, thats for sure.

                      Here is some info about why its so unstable and I think DICE did a great job of recreating that instability in the game, especially when going after ground targets:

                      "Eurofighter Typhoon has a foreplane/delta configuration which is, by nature, aerodynamically unstable.

                      The instability of the aircraft is derived from the position of a theoretical “pressure point” on the longitudinal axis of the aircraft. This is calculated from the contribution to lift from each of the aircraft components (the wings, the canards, fuselage etc). If the pressure point is in front of the centre of gravity on the longitudinal axis, the aircraft is aerodynamically unstable and it is impossible for a human to control it.

                      With the Eurofighter Typhoon, in subsonic flight the pressure point lies in front of the centre of gravity, therefore making the aircraft aerodynamically unstable, and is why Eurofighter Typhoon has such a complex Flight Control System – computers react quicker than a pilot.

                      When Eurofighter Typhoon crosses into supersonic flight, the pressure point moves behind the centre of gravity, giving a stable aircraft.

                      The advantages of an intentionally unstable design over that of a stable arrangement include greater agility – particularly at subsonic speeds - reduced drag, and an overall increase in lift (also enhancing STOL performance)."

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                      • <EsP>Fury

                        #12
                        Re: new jet, bad allignment?

                        Originally posted by abtomat74
                        Did anyone at EA actually fly the new plane before releasing it to the public?

                        I hopped into the Eurotrash(new name until it's fixed) and took off...first thing I notice is that it pulls to the right. Maybe my joystick needs calibration...nope, because I fly with mouse/kb!

                        Fly over to the MiG hanger to check its allignment, perfect, as always. Head back over to the Eurotrash and try again...same problem, pulls to the right constantly...and it feels extremely nose heavy and tries to dive at the same rate it pulls right.

                        Try this, fly forward and yaw right...moves quickly doesn't it? Now fly forward and yaw left...moves at 75% or less of the speed the right yaw offered.

                        Let me guess, this is a design of the actual Eurofighter in case the pilot falls asleep. The plane yaws to one side and down so he can bump into something and wake up?

                        Awesome, we have a natural NASCAR fighter plane to play with, yay. Please fix immediately, it obviously shouldn't be this way.
                        Of course they did not fly it this is EA/Dice we are talking about

                        What did you expect these are the same ppl that have brought us these wonderful patches and hotfixes :laugh:

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                        • mr_o

                          #13
                          Re: new jet, bad allignment?

                          the eurofighter , altho aerodynamically unstable, is computer stabalised. to the pilot there is no "feel" of instability as the computer cancels it out. the instability is there for manuevering but is kept in check even then by the computers

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                          • cliffro

                            #14
                            Re: new jet, bad allignment?

                            IMO the Eurofighter is not anywhere near more "agile" than any of the other jets including the bombers, Taraba Quarry is a good place to test that out, fly the E.F., get out and then fly the F15....huge difference the F15 feels like a friggin F16 compared to the Eurofighter

                            I'd say they should tweak it but well you know how Dice is at that........

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                            • Brain Damage

                              #15
                              Re: new jet, bad allignment?

                              Originally posted by Alcorr
                              The quote I have in my sig now is all of the words you ever posted in that thread.....

                              Not to mention the quote had nothing to do with the actual subject of the thread.
                              sorry but you come across as not being that bright

                              Ha glad i didn't waste $10 bucks now

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