ROE Update from EA/DICE

[AnotherEd]

Re: ROE Update from EA/DICE

Ok then, kill someone. Look at your score and you will see negative points. Now wait for the punish. Press tab, or whatever button you mapped the score screen to, and check again. Ok, did the negative points change? No, they didnt.
BEING PUNISHED OR FORGIVEN HAS NO IMPACT ON YOUR SCORE. Punishment simply tracks the tk and brings you closer to being kicked.

#1-this isn't the thread for this.
#2-zipp0r clearly doesn't have a clue. move on and let him carry on his merry way assuming incorrect information without factual evidence. it's not worth it to prove him wrong when anyone that has checked this out knows he is.

He can run the tkpunish annoucement script the same as we do. We simply took the step to get it "officially" approved by EA, not the it "should" be ok to run on ranked servers as the person who wrote the script said. Even some Official EA servers now run this script too.

yes i understand this, i was using that statement as an argument to switch on why he reasons that way in one breath but in the next he reverses his logic to prove his other point.

Whilst tkpunish may be on nobody can tk anybody with FF off. So what's the point.

Simplicity. A global rule is much easier to enforce/understand/communicate than is a conditional one. As you said, it does nothing in the case when FF is off, so it doesn't make sense why you are arguing it then.

I do agree however, that FF at 100% should be a required hard rule and not a suggested policy. Makes for more enjoyable game play if you ask me.

[imported_cybercrow]

Re: ROE Update from EA/DICE

§ Though it is not required, EA requests that all servers run Friendly Fire at 100% for all settings, including mines (sv.friendlyFireWithMines).

thats all i wanted to see.
in are server ff is always off never on had to many tk's off players when gettin a vechile,
are server so it stays off happy with that.
an to be honest it seems like EA is makin the ROE as they go along adding an adding an adding.
EA STOP an LISTEN to what the CUSTOMER wants its ARE SERVERS we PAY for them so how about giving us the CUSTOMER who PAY'S for them some rights aswell to how the hell WE play ARE SERVER

[jdrou]

Re: ROE Update from EA/DICE

If you really wanna have all punish features off, there's a simple way to endrun the RoE. Just set your TK Punish threshhold to a stupidly high setting. I presented this as being a loophole to BF2RS and no one freaked out.

If it wasn't for this loophole, I would probably go unranked now if I was a ranked server operator. This rule might make sense if the TK detection/punish system worked reasonably, but it doesn't.

[JonnyMacFred102]

Re: ROE Update from EA/DICE

All that servers need to do if they want to have no tk punish is to raise it to like 99 or something.

Or they could just leave punish off... it's not like anything is going to stop them from turning it off...

[jdrou]

Re: ROE Update from EA/DICE

Or they could just leave punish off... it's not like anything is going to stop them from turning it off...

Except maybe that EA will take away their "ranked" status if someone reports it.

[Blades]

Re: ROE Update from EA/DICE

Who the hell is gonna report that???? YOu would have to be a real ******* to do that.

[switch176]

Re: ROE Update from EA/DICE

Answer me this. What is the point of globally enforcing the tkpunish system when having FF on "isn't" a requirement? .

You can still tk with FF off. Example: Being run over by a teamate warrants a Team kill even with FF off. This is the reason I don't want to see the TK punish as a requirement for ALL ranked servers. We still get tards who will lay down infront of jets and Punish to get the other player kicked. When I see this happen, I give no warning or courtesy kick. Its an insta ban for life. I have zero tolerance for these idiots. It seems that since I have turned off TK punish people have been less apt to try and exploit the system. FFS let me admin my own server how I want to. Sure, I could turn the kick threshold to 99 tk's, but it seems that when people see the TK punish they feel vindicated. Most people will never know that 99 punishes are allowed before kick anyways. Its just a dumbass rule.

[JonnyMacFred102]

Re: ROE Update from EA/DICE

You can still tk with FF off. Example: Being run over by a teamate warrants a Team kill even with FF off. This is the reason I don't want to see the TK punish as a requirement for ALL ranked servers. We still get tards who will lay down infront of jets and Punish to get the other player kicked. When I see this happen, I give no warning or courtesy kick. Its an insta ban for life. I have zero tolerance for these idiots. It seems that since I have turned off TK punish people have been less apt to try and exploit the system. FFS let me admin my own server how I want to. Sure, I could turn the kick threshold to 99 tk's, but it seems that when people see the TK punish they feel vindicated. Most people will never know that 99 punishes are allowed before kick anyways. Its just a dumbass rule.

Knowing that, they would be more careful about tking and less inclined to do stupid things when they know they would be punished. And if/when they discover that there is no kick for punish, just ban them.