tactical suggestions for Songhau Stalemate (16 player)?

[Numpty_Dumpty]

Hi guys...

I wonder if any of you can give me some tips on the best plays for Songhau map - 16 player version?

I'm going to organize a game and this isn't a map I've played much.

Any help would be really appreciated.

ND

[ptegan]

Re: tactical suggestions for Songhau Stalemate (16 player)?

Just to remind people.....






With 8 players you could leave 1 back to defend your spawn base. A sniper with claymores on the flag for example or spec-ops with C4.

Out of the 7 left send a squad of 3 to each 'white' flag and someone in a jeep to try and get around to take their spawn base.

Medics are really going to come in handy :)


I can't really help you as I only ever play 8 vs 8 infantry only which usually means no need for spec-ops, engineers or AT.

[Numpty_Dumpty]

Re: tactical suggestions for Songhau Stalemate (16 player)?

Cheers for that ptegan - that was really nice of you!

:)

...Yep guys - that's the one! LOL

[DOGGiE52]

Re: tactical suggestions for Songhau Stalemate (16 player)?

If your whole team uses the squadbug and join one squad, gathering in one bunch running around caping flags you'll OWN :).

[The_Misfit]

Re: tactical suggestions for Songhau Stalemate (16 player)?

Is this infantry only, or full-on 8v8??

We've played several matches on this map in both leagues, and have a tournament match tonight on it (5v5 infantry).

The 8v8 mentioned above is ok, but fails to address the transport helo/BH. As China, we took 2 guys in our transport helo, dropped mines on the Northern road from the US base, and then rushed their main with that crew. Used the APC to cap a flag on his own, and sent the other 4 to the North flag to cap it. The rush on their main 'caused enough hassles for them that we were able to cap both mid flags. I artied the Helo pad after we rammed the bh, killing several, and then we managed to steal the BH.

I can go on, just wanna make sure its 8v8 and not 5v5...

[imported_Phenomenomenon]

Re: tactical suggestions for Songhau Stalemate (16 player)?

Mines.... in da wata. Takes the armor factor out of the equation.

[ptegan]

Re: tactical suggestions for Songhau Stalemate (16 player)?

Yeah it's difficult to talk tactics without knowing if it's infantry only or not.

Also some leagues don't let you use commander mode.

[ZemonerZ]

Re: tactical suggestions for Songhau Stalemate (16 player)?

I miss the original songhua stalemate pre all the patches, the BH was so much fun on that map

[Numpty_Dumpty]

Re: tactical suggestions for Songhau Stalemate (16 player)?

Sorry guys - forgot to mention - this is full 8 v 8 version, with vehicles, and commander is allowed. Apologies

[Numpty_Dumpty]

Re: tactical suggestions for Songhau Stalemate (16 player)?

Is this infantry only, or full-on 8v8??

I can go on, just wanna make sure its 8v8 and not 5v5...

8v8 - with vehicles and commader...And do go on - this is exactly what I need to know. Cheers!

:)

[Pilioka]

Re: tactical suggestions for Songhau Stalemate (16 player)?

Commander at main with C4

Both APCs to North Village

Send 1 Jihad from your main to intercept enemy APC. Once North Village is capped jihad from there also.

Do whatever after that.

[The_Misfit]

Re: tactical suggestions for Songhau Stalemate (16 player)?

Ok, #1 and most important thing... This is a 4 flag map (like Mashtur16, our home map). I generally take a cautious approach to start, making sure you have 2 flags - getting stuck with 1 will give them ticket bleed. Once you establish 2 flags, then you can evaluate what to do about taking a 3rd flag. Generally the 2 flags will be your main, and one of the middle flags.


Ok, as mentioned b4, commander at main alone, c4 on flag, in a building so arty doesnt get him.

From USMC side - 2 in BH - squad1 - both engys, drop mines out in areas where they'd help defend against armor. If you're playing for flag #2 to start, then send APC and jeep with guys in it (2 squads, everyone spawns on them after they leave base) - to the North flag and take it. Your CO can let u know if they've went to the S flag, which I'd expect.

Use the BH to your advantage here, while its nerfed, you should be able to make some nice passes over their flag, if you get a good run - killing several, then you can time it with an arty strike and push for the 3rd flag. Also, the BH needs to be very mindful of their transport chopper, which will either be on a ramming mission, or will press to your main (the bh crew should be responsible for helping the CO defend the main).

Never loose your main, hold 2 flags, and then outkill them. Remember, revives save the ticket loss, so medics are extremely vital.

From the Chinese side, its basically the same, and you have the same options with the Transport helo - ramming their BH (dont think its a big issue w/this patch), or rush their main and have a couple guys spawn on you.

Basically, work up a 2 flag start to start the match. Once you establish 2 flags and get after it a bit, you'll have an idea of their strats and aim - react accordingly. If you're outgunned, hold 2 and defend. If you can take them, press. If you take the side as you hope, then you can consider a more aggressive approach for round 2 - rushing for both flags in the center for example....

Hope this helps.

[Numpty_Dumpty]

Re: tactical suggestions for Songhau Stalemate (16 player)?

...Hope this helps.

I should say!

Thank you very much for this ~ I'll be sitting down today and translating this into some tactical maps for my team.

This is very much appreciated - as were all the responces.

Thanks guys!

HD