Any one else notice this?

[imported_TheDragon]

even though I have about 300 wins to go
I am still trying HARD for War College
so I pay attention to that stat
My team has not lost a single game in three days
(yeah - lucky us)
but then this morning
stats in sig show loss went up by 3?
are some servers that for behind in posting?
(I only play on our clan server)
or do mistakes occur and mis-assign win/loss

can never check in realtime
eg score always goes up about 300 points over nite

[rombaft]

Re: Any one else notice this?

maybe you left the server and after that your team lost the round, this also count as a lost round

[imported_TheDragon]

Re: Any one else notice this?

good thought
but no, did not leave amy round till the end
hmm
maybe the server "see me in the NEXT game" as I am quiting post game and reviewing stats
but I thought you had to be 'in game' for 5 minutes for it to register?

I did not hit join game for next map

oh well - such is life I guess
just curiouos if others had similar anomoly

[hightow]

Re: Any one else notice this?

Are you switching sides mid-game?

[imported_TheDragon]

Re: Any one else notice this?

never ever switch sides mid game
and only got auto balanced switched 1 time
(forgot to join a squad after I commanded a previous game)

[Rez_K'awil]

Re: Any one else notice this?

yes, i've seen this same error. I think the win/loss counter is inherently flawed. I've seen that some nights when I play 4 or 5 games, it still registers that I've played as many as 10 or in the biggest extreme, 15. Why? Don't know. Perhaps another BF2 bug?

[CinC212]

Re: Any one else notice this?

I haven't noticed what you're saying, but that's not a stat I'm keeping my eye on. What I have seen and mentioned in other threads is similar situations like the following:

Gulf of Oman, fresh round, I'm Sniper.
I shoot a guy off the crane, then nothing's going on for a while until the MEC att chopper comes over.

He never hovers for a moment to give me a good shot so I'm mostly just annoying him, about 8 shots hit and he's looking for me now.

Guy spawns in nearby base, grabs the APC and starts hammering the helo.
Thing is smoking, I get one more shot in, the APC finishes him off and I get the message, "You got a damage kill assist!" twice- pilot, gunner.

I hit [Tab] to check the scoreboard, and I have 2 points, 1 kill, NO teamwork points. I was never given credit for those points, just like I've noticed not being given flag cap points in the past.

I know without a doubt after the helo incident that this game does not score properly. There was very little action in my area at the time, and the server wasn't even full to begin with, so checking the scoreboard was easy- the confusion of battle wasn't a factor here.

Very disappointing, and discouraging :/


Question for you TopGunGreg: you say "and only got auto balanced switched 1 time (forgot to join a squad after I commanded a previous game)".

This implies to me that had you joined a squad, you would not have been auto balanced to the other team- am I reading that correctly?
Because if I am, there's another bug in this game.

I was ripped from a great squad a few nights back and thrown onto a team of noobs who just cowered in their base.
Pi$$ed me off royal since the nice game I had going was completely wrecked as I tried doing basically everything on my own, no one on that "team" had down the concept of working together

Whatever the case, I've long past had my fill of auto balance taking me from my friends and putting me with people who are more concerned with their own score than the team's welfare.

I understand there's a purpose to it- unbalanced teams aren't fair or fun- but why's it always gotta be me? :cry:
Seriously, I'd say cloe to a third of my games I end up switched at some point.
Irritating...

Anyway, are squad members not supposed to be switched, or maybe its a server setting and the ones I happen to play on don't have it?
Curious.

[tcp1]

Re: Any one else notice this?

Squad leaders do not get switched, squad members can but it picks smurfs first.

[-=4th=-1/2Hawk]

Re: Any one else notice this?

Smurfs?

[Jlspence]

Re: Any one else notice this?

Smurfs...unsquadded team mates that show up as blue dots.

[imported_TheDragon]

Re: Any one else notice this?

Question for you TopGunGreg: you say "and only got auto balanced switched 1 time (forgot to join a squad after I commanded a previous game)".

This implies to me that had you joined a squad, you would not have been auto balanced to the other team- am I reading that correctly?

I.

here is my personal understanding of autolance/smartbalance
and it comes ONLY from my obsevation in my server
where I have been admin for a few months
there are many programs available to admins
and theirs might be tweaked different than ours
and we do NOT use any scripts
from what I hear - they can adjust many variables
but sadly - none of us know how to use them :P

autobalance ONLY looks at team count
NOT ranks, scores, or anything else
we set ours to be a delta of 2
meaning do not let any one team have 3 more than the other side
it will NOT switch the living, only the dead
these things I am sure,
so it nmight take a while to balance out
this really looks bad on the start of a new map
if many quit from one side
it might take 2 - 5 minutes for it to balance out

the rest is anecdotle (ie no proof = just my gut feeling)
whenever I see someone team switched
it has always been someone NOT in a squad
every time a clan member says - hey switch me back - I see he is not in a squad
(and he gets chastised by for it :evil: )
we also use smartbalance
which is a feature on our admin console
it says give preferance to our clan tags to prevent switching
and we do not allow players to switch in game
(this is sort of a default of autobalance)
the few times I have turned it off
it seams as though the guys with higher ranks are smart enough
(ie have enough game experince to know to switch sides)
then they all join our clans side)
and now it is REALLY unfair
the whole other team wound up Cpl or less

[CinC212]

Re: Any one else notice this?

Thanks for that :)
It was prolly normal behavior then, as I wasn't SL, just a member.
I'll try being leader more often, see if I can avoid the switching that way.