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  • WarGimp

    #1

    Setting some facts straight

    Right off the bat, I want to say I'm hitting that magical point where I become completely fed up with thei whole damned community. Not qute there yet, thanks to a handful of people who are up for rational discussion, but I'm speeding towards it like a 1.12 stinger locked on a friendly chopper.

    Thus, this is going to be a somewhat grumpy post.

    Let's cut to the chase...

    I'm sick and tired of noob this noob that. Ya know what? This game IS made for noobs. Any game that doesn't cator to noobs is a marketing failure. The vast majority of players are NOT "hard core". They are casual players who like to play a couple rounds here and there. They'll never bother to post on a forum, join a clan, or play in a tournement. They just want to enjoy some entertainment that they paid for. If a game is to be successful, it's those people they have to play to. It's called good business.

    Next point, the endless (and worthless) complaining. Don't give me that crap about complaining about complainers... 'cause you'd just be complaining too. I don't mean that people don't have the right to voice their concerns, grievences, dislikes, or whatever. Of bloody cource you can do that. What's stinking up these forums is the endless injections of "whaa" into threads that are intended for discussion. Ya don't like an element of the game? Don't post in a thread where people are trying to talk about how to adapt. Simple. Stay the farq out. We really need some Admin support in this regaurd. The signal to noise ratio has gotten stupid lately.

    Then there's the egos. My god. There's some truely screwed up people out there. This is a GAME. It's MEANINGLESS. From a group of 12 yearolds with nothing real in their worlds to worry about, I'd expect it... but the majority of folks 'round here don't have an excuse. Yeah, it's a hobby and something you can be passionate about, but for the love of god understand that being unber at BF2 does NOT make you a better person.


    There. I vented. Do I feel better now?
    Not really. I've enjoyed TBF2 as a place to yap with fellow fans and to discuss ideas and concepts, but that's just not a part of this community anymore.

    Boo fuggin hoo.
  • SFTC AKHeero

    #2
    Re: Setting some facts straight

    I second that.

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    • tjmhay

      #3
      Re: Setting some facts straight

      Originally posted by Wargimp
      Boo fuggin hoo.
      Took the words out of my mouth.

      Rational discussion? I seem to remember reading a lot of your posts containing personal attacks and laughing other people off when they had something constructive to say.

      These forums don't cater to anyones needs in particular. I certianly don't see why your doctrine as opposed to any other should prevail in the structure of things. People have this compulsion to take disscusions whichever way their mind wanders - this thread isn't going to have any impact on that fact.

      "boo hoo?" damn straight, people are unhappy, they express it. You're unhappy about that so you do the same. Maybe I should make an anti-anti-whine thread to even things out.

      My point is you're discrediting the many opinions on these boards in favor of your own. Sorry but the masses have more weight than you.

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      • WarGimp

        #4
        Re: Setting some facts straight

        Originally posted by tjmhay
        Took the words out of my mouth.

        Rational discussion? I seem to remember reading a lot of your posts containing personal attacks and laughing other people off when they had something constructive to say.

        These forums don't cater to anyones needs in particular. I certianly don't see why your doctrine as opposed to any other should prevail in the structure of things. People have this compulsion to take disscusions whichever way their mind wanders - this thread isn't going to have any impact on that fact.

        "boo hoo?" damn straight, people are unhappy, they express it. You're unhappy about that so you do the same. Maybe I should make an anti-anti-whine thread to even things out.

        My point is you're discrediting the many opinions on these boards in favor of your own. Sorry but the masses have more weight than you.
        Thankyou for so brilliantly underlining my point.

        "Boo fuggin hoo" is a stab at myself for making the thread, not at anyone else.

        I never laugh off anyone who has a constuctive thing to say... but I do enjoy laughing quite a bit. "Personal attacks" are something I hold in reserve for people who's posting makes their personality something that needs attacking or I'm kidding (and try to get that point across).

        As to who's doctrine these forums cator too, that's TBF2's call.
        Check out the name of the forum: "Battlefield 2 Discussion Discuss all the latest Battlefield 2 entries, tips and tricks, and bugs."
        Discussion. Discource. Sharing, communicating, and yapping. Not acting like a tool and/or lashing out at whoever you feel you need to lash out at.

        As to discrediting... well, I think I've been 'round helpin out the noobs, charing ideas, and goin for the giggles long enough to leave my credibility in a perfectly fine state.

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        • Guidon666

          #5
          Re: Setting some facts straight

          Ahhh..

          Your just a complaining noob!!!

          :) JK

          Too bad you forgot to mention the sheer <insert vehicle/weapon/tactic> whore everyone keeps calling everyone else.

          I guess with my stats I would be labled a Dieing Whore!

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          • tjmhay

            #6
            Re: Setting some facts straight

            Originally posted by Wargimp
            As to discrediting... well, I think I've been 'round helpin out the noobs, charing ideas, and goin for the giggles long enough to leave my credibility in a perfectly fine state.
            What!? You took what I said totally out of context. Maybe you should have a re-read before you try and slaughter what I'm saying with things like "Thankyou for so brilliantly underlining my point."Care to explain?

            “Red is Blue”
            “No, Blue is Blue”
            "Aha, thank you for proving my point!"
            “?!?!?”

            Was that supposed to totally undermine what I said while simultaneously not making any sense?

            "Personal attacks" are something I hold in reserve for people who's posting makes their personality something that needs attacking "

            So... Anyone who deviates from the "right" personality needs attacking? Makes from some pretty linear thinking, let alone the nullification of all diversity in arguments.

            Basically this post is about the lack of discussion going on yet all I see are threads discussing the balance of the newest patch.

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            • HckyDlsstrs

              #7
              Re: Setting some facts straight

              wargimp i've had m y differences with you... but now i finally see eye to eye with. This is exactly how i feel about the "TBF2"... Very well.

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              • Talus
                Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 6854

                #8
                Re: Setting some facts straight

                There just isn't enough time in a day to get the 'noise' out of these forums...I'm tryin'.

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                • Chris_Redfield
                  Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 5986

                  #9
                  Re: Setting some facts straight

                  Although Wargimp is somewhat quitly in the crimes underlined, the point is still valid. Too hostile, has this all become. Im not a "vet" at this place, but most of my posts are arguments and debates, rather than casual convos. But its the forum, you gotta live with that. You guys all have to realize that most of this has been caused by "infantry against pilots" and "pilots against infantry". I&#180;m all up for a decent discussion, but when its "planewhores, you skilless n00bs, its good to have my payback" attitude, expect a knifejab back aswell.

                  Gentlemen, things can be taken easy of people are easy on you aswell.

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                  • CaptJordus

                    #10
                    Re: Setting some facts straight

                    Originally posted by Wargimp

                    Then there's the egos. My god. There's some truely screwed up people out there. This is a GAME. It's MEANINGLESS. From a group of 12 yearolds with nothing real in their worlds to worry about, I'd expect it... but the majority of folks 'round here don't have an excuse. Yeah, it's a hobby and something you can be passionate about, but for the love of god understand that being unber at BF2 does NOT make you a better person.

                    Boo fuggin hoo.

                    Somewhere, there are a bunch of BSF and SoB members crying under their covers.

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                    • Lugal317

                      #11
                      Re: Setting some facts straight

                      Originally posted by CaptJordus
                      Somewhere, there are a bunch of BSF and SoB members crying under their covers.

                      Ouch. Did I offend you earlier somehow? Don't make this personal, I agree with the man, but frankly YOUR COMMENT is the stuff he's talking about.

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                      • HckyDlsstrs

                        #12
                        Re: Setting some facts straight

                        jordus just fall in a ditch.

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                        • MooneyBravo

                          #13
                          Re: Setting some facts straight

                          Last night 3 clan members joined a server I was playing on and got on the rooftop in between the Hotel and Square flag in Karkand. The only way to get up there is from being boosted by a supply crate. Anyways they were all support and just grenade spammed all around them while giving ammo to each other. They were eventually killed by artillery and a few grenades, after that they kept getting killed over and over trying to get back up there. After anyone killed them they would call them a "noob with unlocks" and if they were killed by the same person again they would start a kick vote.

                          My point? It seems like the ratio of mature to immature is dropping.

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                          • Lugal317

                            #14
                            Re: Setting some facts straight

                            Originally posted by MooneyBravo
                            Last night 3 clan members joined a server I was playing on and got on the rooftop in between the Hotel and Square flag in Karkand. The only way to get up there is from being boosted by a supply crate. Anyways they were all support and just grenade spammed all around them while giving ammo to each other. They were eventually killed by artillery and a few grenades, after that they kept getting killed over and over trying to get back up there. After anyone killed them they would call them a "noob with unlocks" and if they were killed by the same person again they would start a kick vote.

                            My point? It seems like the ratio of mature to immature is dropping.
                            You will find that anywhere, plus sometimes people just like to poke fun. If I get rammed by a jet you will often see me type, "nice ram, +5 for style" Now I know its not "you flippin n00b learn to fly", but I still like to talk smack, its part of the game. Hell I got TVed yesterday when I was flying the F35B straight on with a chopper (risky) and the guy said "OWNED". He won that one!!! I said "nice TV dude, nice" and went on my way. Why? Because he did OWN me! :laugh: There's nothing inherently wrong with making smart remarks, its the people that get their panties in a bunch that can get really annoying. So I take everything with a grain of salt, afterall it is just a game.

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                            • SaladFork

                              #15
                              Re: Setting some facts straight

                              Thank YOU.

                              Though not specifically complaining, I wouldn't mind seeing an end to all these "OMG READ MY OPINION ON 1.2!!!!!111oneoneone" threads.

                              ~Salad

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