newAA is actualy the biggest disaster for newer players

[rombaft]

Players who start at BF2 or aren't playing the game long, well, the new AA totaly screwed them .

As a new player you will be stunned by the fact you can even fly choppers in this game , so lets get in and try , after some efforts they will give up because they can't stay in the air for 5 seconds .

Only players who have some experience with the airvehicles will be able to stay in the air for a longuer period , they know what the chopper/planes are capable off, know where the AA sites are, know how to take them out fast.


sad to see a nice feature as air vehicles to get lost, certainly for the newer players who can't even practice in them anymore because there is just not enough time between getting in and getting destroyed by AA

[R0man]

Re: newAA is actualy the biggest disaster for newer players

*cough* single player *cough*

[|AFF|Soupyblister]

Re: newAA is actualy the biggest disaster for newer players

*cough* single player *cough*

That is not the same, its good to get practice with how they feel. But now with the great AA, like I read some where else in these forums, there is now AA whores. Off subject, but its funny how people hardly use the linebackers, now you have people TKing others for it. Anyway, the bots are not camping on all the IGLA sites. Its a different game play on line. But don't get me wrong single player is a great way to get the feel and get your level of confidence up, and fine tune things on-line.

[rombaft]

Re: newAA is actualy the biggest disaster for newer players

*cough* single player *cough*

you can only play single player maps with 16 player sice, and you won't get any practice in those maps, also the bots in the single players maps suck so hard you actualy have to take a nap during the round for not ending up first place

[whoosh]

Re: newAA is actualy the biggest disaster for newer players

Dam the bad luck.

So they won't be flying around in the boundaries doing nothing while a good pilot waits on the ground for an airplane and thier team is loosing? OMFG thats terrible.

I suppose they won't be able to fly around for half the game with a 1 and 4 record while thier team is getting beat. OMFG thats terrible too.

Guess what. Its been said over and over and over again in the game.

If you can't fly don't get in the fuxking airplane. Well, now thanks to the patch there will be a disincentive for doing it anyway.

Your noob ass will be shot out of the sky regardless of how much time you waste flying around the boundaries. Some one will find you because the only people left flying are other good pilots and they aren't hiding. THEY ARE LOOKING FOR YOU.

[=PM=Unity]

Re: newAA is actualy the biggest disaster for newer players

you can only play single player maps with 16 player sice, and you won't get any practice in those maps, also the bots in the single players maps suck so hard you actualy have to take a nap during the round for not ending up first place

Eh, chopper wise you can get a feel playing maps like daqing oilfields on expert (think that's the right one). Because of the way the map's set up the bots usually have a pretty easy time causing damage and they are REALLY accurate with the tank shells if you fly too low. Granted you can't really become an expert doing it but you can certainly learn to fly well enough that the transition to multi shouldn't be that big of a stretch. The one really big problem is that no planes and the crappy heli bots give you no experience what multi heli/heli combat is like.

- Unity

[panzerd18]

Re: newAA is actualy the biggest disaster for newer players

It will be like DC, the good pilots will shine and the hopless ones will find something else to do and not try to fly for cheap points.

[=50K= Karesk]

Re: newAA is actualy the biggest disaster for newer players

you can only play single player maps with 16 player sice, and you won't get any practice in those maps, also the bots in the single players maps suck so hard you actualy have to take a nap during the round for not ending up first place

As the bots suck (but strangely, I think EA has beefed them up in 1.2, they no longer take out a knife about five metres away), someone who wants to get a feel for the 64 player maps should get this mod, it's called BF64 or something.

They make get a couple of crashes to desktop but theoretically speaking it would be useful to get a feel for the map.

[vbl]

Re: newAA is actualy the biggest disaster for newer players

Honestly, if the pilots can't avoid AA, there's probably someone better that oughta be flying.

[Lugal317]

Re: newAA is actualy the biggest disaster for newer players

I'm telling you all, they dumbed down the game for everything except they made it so only stars can fly. Ground pounders are grunts with laser rifles and the people in the air better be skilled.

[Lugal317]

Re: newAA is actualy the biggest disaster for newer players

Honestly, if the pilots can't avoid AA, there's probably someone better that oughta be flying.

Try avoiding two AA sites... Remember on most maps there is an AA site at every flag.

[sooty1977]

Re: newAA is actualy the biggest disaster for newer players

I agree with rombaft it is a shame four the new guys out there,and as far as people sayin if u canot fly stay the hell out of my chopper or plane.Stuff you all,evryone paid for this game and deserve a fair crack at the wip with the equipment in it, they have to start sumwere and as sumone has said here its best to play against humans rather than the ai which sux.

[_X_]

Re: newAA is actualy the biggest disaster for newer players

khm ... well ... and if new player get killed with sniper "one shot one kill" new player wont try sniper rifle? or what if new player get in tank and after few meters he's killed by chopper? he wont get in tank never again? dont think so ... BF1942, and now after 1.2 patch BF2, were allways about skill and geting one ... this is not CS or Quake ... no "instant fun" if I get it right.

[rombaft]

Re: newAA is actualy the biggest disaster for newer players

Dam the bad luck.

So they won't be flying around in the boundaries doing nothing while a good pilot waits on the ground for an airplane and thier team is loosing? OMFG thats terrible.

I suppose they won't be able to fly around for half the game with a 1 and 4 record while thier team is getting beat. OMFG thats terrible too.

Guess what. Its been said over and over and over again in the game.

If you can't fly don't get in the fuxking airplane. Well, now thanks to the patch there will be a disincentive for doing it anyway.

Your noob ass will be shot out of the sky regardless of how much time you waste flying around the boundaries. Some one will find you because the only people left flying are other good pilots and they aren't hiding. THEY ARE LOOKING FOR YOU.

this game is for everybody who has the game, and everybody must learn stuff, top pilots at this moment had to learn it to.

and avoiding AA sites isn't going to help you , AA has got so effective you can now shoot an airvehicle on the other side of the map, totaly out of drawdistance

[Sir. bzb]

Re: newAA is actualy the biggest disaster for newer players

With a whopping 3.5hours of plane time (an hourish of that in 1.2) out of 400 ish total i dont know what your on about. Fact is you learn every vehicle as you go along.
The fact ive come accross spec ops and AT and engineer in the game has yet to put me off driving a tank after all. I think in reality the new players have a huge advantage as they dont know what to expect. The complaints are that we learnt this game pre patch, not that this version is unplayable but this community seems to be lazy in its ability to adjust its 'l33t' skills in line with patch. New players will have a huge advantage in that respect.

I have clocked up about 50 hours copter time but mainly in the transports and they still function fine in this patch, just you cant expecet to sit 10 ft above enemy troops with impunity. The main difference i can see is that you actually have to use flares rather than turn ten degrees to the left.
Game shipped with parachutes and transport copters and almost unlimited altitude..... but so unfair to noobs that they have to use there brain to combine the two features into a flag capture? Same with the plane, it also bombs from above 10ft... the aa is simple to avoid and evade and hardly covers the whole of any map (although i accept that some maps allow the base raping of choppers from a distance).
Attack copters can still score but again they are played as if the aa is no threat and as if by magic they get easily shot down. They are that manouverable that you can at least duck behind a blade of grass if required.
I think veteran players are loosing out more than noobs as they are still insistant on playing in the past.