Replace Hind with MI28!

[Fayadi]

I want to start a petition of changing Hind with Mi28 in Special Forces.


In playing Ghost Town or Iron Gator I find it very easy to defeat HIND using Apache and IMO it is a very unfair fight between them. Hind's missile accuracy is so **** poor, it doesn't even fire at the crosshair and seriously speaking I find it hard to take down an armor with that. In Ghost Town using Apache I can accomplish 30+ kills with 1 or 2 deaths but I find it impossible to accomplish that with the Hind. I am an avid chopper pilot and I avoid maps consisting of Hind choppers only and when I am in the mood of flying chopper I avoid playing Russian in Ghost Town.The best solution to fix this chopper imbalance is to replace it with MI28. MI28 and Apache duel would sure be great and add new elements to the imbalanced chopper matchup in SF

[2(x)ist]

Re: Replace Hind with MI28!

i have no problem with the hind...

[HABO3]

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the Havoc is the equivalent of the Apache in the Russian Army....but they used it up in Vaniila so they had to switch to somethin else. There isn't really an American military equivalent to the HIND huh? Maybe a Blackhawk with rockets and a chain gun.

The physics on the HIND are retarded though, I saw someone go straight vertical to aim at a tank one time and he pitched right back up once he was done firing his rockets and he barely made any descent while doing all of that. With a little bit of skill you can circle strafe all day and when you're Rebels it straight up sucks because it's next to impossible to hit a chopper with an RPG.

[imported_Rafterman]

Re: Replace Hind with MI28!

Let me guess, you were one of the guys that were SALIVATING over the hind

Gimmee, gimmee, gimmeee, this game is suxorz w/o the hind.

[-(PK)-DarkIllusion]

Re: Replace Hind with MI28!

the hind is fine...i wonder y every1 is votin no Fayadi.

[GameWizard]

Re: Replace Hind with MI28!

Personally I don't really HATE the hind, however I think it may should tuned slightly in response time. The apache I think it's pretty well done, however I've noticed the Hind is far more "loose" in terms of control and goes all over the place. If this were fixed, it may solve my quarals with it.

I think it's a slightly good thing that the choppers are harder to fly then the vanilla choppers, because we'll have less unskilled people trying to fly them.

[-(PK)-DarkIllusion]

Re: Replace Hind with MI28!

i have to agree that the hind is a bit "loose", however with some practice you get used to it, and actually use it as an advantage...

[rombaft]

Re: Replace Hind with MI28!

The hind can own, but compared to the apache, the hind will always go down, I never, and I mean never got shot down in the apache by a hind , the apache manouvres ten times better, rockets fire closer (more acurate) and you can fire them lots faster then the hind.

another thing with the hind, there is something strage with the controls of that thing, when you want to make a run or dive flight, you need to release throtle first then go down, then throtle up, .... , othrwise it just seems to hang with nose down

[FLIPINOM4D]

Re: Replace Hind with MI28!

Hind is pretty good, I wish it can transport troops like the real world Hind can do

[imported_Rafterman]

Re: Replace Hind with MI28!

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Hind a bit of a clunker in real life? I know it's faster than the apache, but I remember reading or hearing on TV that it handles like a pig. After all, it's just an armored and gunned up transport chopper.

[rombaft]

Re: Replace Hind with MI28!

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Hind a bit of a clunker in real life? I know it's faster than the apache, but I remember reading or hearing on TV that it handles like a pig. After all, it's just an armored and gunned up transport chopper.

well, in the game is handles like a 2000 pound pig

[MrChris_CJ]

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they could add that shark heli...

the one that doesnt have the tail rotor just the 2 on top...its a nice heli hehe

[CtrlAltDe1337]

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No way dude, can you imagine how many ppl you could kill with the MI-28 on a map like Ghost Town or Iron Gator? You could easily get a streak of 200. It would also bring the tking noob heli whores to ruin our game.

[Fayadi]

Re: Replace Hind with MI28!

FIrst of all for that helicopter to become that dominant it have to defeat the other chopper and I think it is not gonna be an easy task when facing the other chopper. Apache is a more powerful version of cobra, missiles have higher damage and IMO it has more hp too. I excels more using Apache than any other chopper..Don't know about other people .The Havoc won't dominate game now more than the Apache is... In my experience the only limits why I can't get more kills with my Apache when I am pawning is the availability of enemy units in my vision during my sortie. Seriously , I will just chew up anything that is within my vision. With the power Apache has, i have never seen anybody with a kill streak of 100 let alone 200. When I am owning...the most I can go is 30-40 kills with 1 or 2 deaths in ghost town... Maybe I haven't play a game long enough to get more kills than that..About Iron Gator, I have only flew a couple of times because I do CQC mostly in that map.

For MI28 to pawns it have to have a gunner..Without gunner it has no more advantage than Cobra,WZ10. But for Apache to pawn, it doesn't even need a gunner. I have never think that gunner is useful for Apache. Destroying tanks and infantry in a dive bombing won't ever require gunner. Gunner can function if one flies in slow mode but it runs the chances of getting shot down when one can do all the job by oneself.
So in my opinion adding MI 28 won't alter the balance but only add a new element to the gameplay.

[Fayadi]

Re: Replace Hind with MI28!

I have a better idea...Why don't they replace the Mi 17 transport heli with the HInd. It can carry up to 6 ppl including the pilots. Tune down Hind strength like reducing its missiles from 14 to 8 and take out the gunner's tv missile capability. So overall it will be a just nice attack transport heli just like the Black Hawk. What do you guys think?