Altered scoring for vehicles

[rombaft]

Re: Altered scoring for vehicles

A tank or APC can be a real pain in the ARS , but there are many many tools to take them out (C4, AT, TOW, other tanks, choppers, ....)

It isn't a real problem in my opinion, if you would alther the scoring system for this, you should also alter the scoring system when you kill someone with C4, noob tube, .... , these are also easy kill, etc...

Don't be a whiner man

[alwo]

Re: Altered scoring for vehicles

Tanks and APCs aren't really that hard to take out (2 or 3 AT guys) but it seems like most players are content to ignore them and hope someone else destroys it. That is why they get such great scores on the city maps.

Very true... AT kit is rarely used in Karkand so the Tanks and APCs can get very high scores.
I used to use Spec Ops alot so I had the option to C4 a tank but nowadays I use the Medic kit so I basicly run and hide whenever I see an armored vehicle.

Jets are a completely different problem. They shouldn't get points for killing infantry but only for destroying other jets and ground vehicles and flag defense points. Obviously the number of points they get for these things would need to be increased a little but that shouldn't be too hard to do.

That seems very harsh on the pilot... but i agree that something should be done to give a pilot more incentive to down the opposing pilot.

[Capt_Havok]

Re: Altered scoring for vehicles

"Tanks and APCs aren't really that hard to take out (2 or 3 AT guys) but it seems like most players are content to ignore them and hope someone else destroys it. That is why they get such great scores on the city maps."

Abso-****ing-lutely right.

People are more content to scream "OMG TANKWHORE!!1!!" than to simply do something about it. But, since it would cause a momentary inconvenience to spawn AT, Eng, or Spec For, and *deal* with the problem, it's much easier to bitch until someone else does it, until EA makes tanks vunerable to pistol shots.

So, the lesson here is, if people put 5% of the effort into dealing with a problem that they spend whining about it, world hunger would be solved before I've finished this anecdote.

[Odedge]

Re: Altered scoring for vehicles

This idea has merit and shouldn't be ignored so quickly. I play AT a lot and it does take more "effort" to take a tank out, but I still only get 2 points. I can get the same points as a medic by killing some one (which is normally easier) or reviving some one.

A tank vs tank situation is different because they are "evenly" matched. I am not a point whore, but since there is scoring and stats involved in the game, it's a valid argument.

The only problem I have with the game when talking about scoring is how easy it is for decent jet pilots to get points. It's been discussed to death, but it essentially, what vehicle they have has more to do with their success than the skill they poses.

[KingJungle]

Re: Altered scoring for vehicles

How about the idea of actually scoring on which vehicle you are in...i.e. the plane guys get "plane score" for being in a plane and killing people...the tank guys get "tank score" for being in a tank etc etc...this would then mean to move up rank you cannot necessarily spend all your time in a plane being a hero - it actually means you need to do everything else also...but not just enough to ensure you get the next badge level etc.

Just a thought in the idea of people wanting score, but why not compare the infantry with the infantry rather than infantry Vs tank whores? I always laugh at the dudes with amazing scores (well anything above say 10k is enough for me to be envious over) and when you look at the kills on the ground they have made, usually shows up as less than 10% of total kills...

[Kattspya]

Re: Altered scoring for vehicles

Good ideas but like some others have said it's too complicated. All that really needs to be done is make players get enemy vehicle damage points like you get negative friendly vehicle damage points. That way people get rewarded for taking on vehicles and we would probably see more AT soldiers around.

Yeah they are complicated but can you find any problems with them besides their complexity?

Tanks and APCs aren't really that hard to take out (2 or 3 AT guys) but it seems like most players are content to ignore them and hope someone else destroys it. That is why they get such great scores on the city maps.

If the tanks got worse they would get a higher average score. My hypothetic system would update once a month or so.

How about the idea of actually scoring on which vehicle you are in...i.e. the plane guys get "plane score" for being in a plane and killing people...the tank guys get "tank score" for being in a tank etc etc...this would then mean to move up rank you cannot necessarily spend all your time in a plane being a hero - it actually means you need to do everything else also...but not just enough to ensure you get the next badge level etc.

Just a thought in the idea of people wanting score, but why not compare the infantry with the infantry rather than infantry Vs tank whores? I always laugh at the dudes with amazing scores (well anything above say 10k is enough for me to be envious over) and when you look at the kills on the ground they have made, usually shows up as less than 10% of total kills...

This is another good idea. But it would make a server scorelist worthless. You would need a different scoreboard for each vehicle type. If you did it "my" way you would still get a comparable score.

A tank or APC can be a real pain in the ARS , but there are many many tools to take them out (C4, AT, TOW, other tanks, choppers, ....)

It isn't a real problem in my opinion, if you would alther the scoring system for this, you should also alter the scoring system when you kill someone with C4, noob tube, .... , these are also easy kill, etc...

Don't be a whiner man

I have no intrest in urinating on someone elses party. My intrest is to find a good umbrella to keep over my own party, the attack helos. I want to get rid of the whiners. If that means giving up a few points and having to compete with ground pounders, so be it.