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  • Copy_of_Blah

    #16
    Re: Equipment Whoring

    Well since I have no idea what two times tag is I will not comment on that.
    Maybe I am the only one. The uncappable flag was a good point I hadn't thought of.
    I was just flinging an idea around. I was wrong apparently.
    Maybe it's you that has a worse idea because you aren't telling us what yours is. :P j/k
    Tell me though when in war do reinforcements get reinserted directly into a hot zone after they have been depleted. Nevermind don't tell me.
    I'm done with it now. This is getting nowhere FAST.

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    • imported_Svartberg

      #17
      Re: Equipment Whoring

      They should completly remove jets and tanks, this way there wouldn't be anything left to whore

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      • AlphaNut

        #18
        Re: Equipment Whoring

        Originally posted by Svartberg
        They should completly remove jets and tanks, this way there wouldn't be anything left to whore
        Yeah, and also remove all other weapons and give us a pair of knitting needles for defense instead...

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        • NoseKi||s
          Member
          • Jul 2006
          • 481

          #19
          Re: Equipment Whoring

          Originally posted by R0man
          Yeah then I could get bombed by two (or 4) jets at once. That would be awesome!
          Yes.. my dream come true too... All the airspace could be filled with 64 jets trying to avoid crashing into eachother and no1 woud be capping flags = my dream come true

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          • Kaiser_Weber

            #20
            Re: Equipment Whoring

            All the ideas are interesting and valid but if you really think about it the only one that truely works, with little flaw and minor patching, is to increase the rate at which Equipment spawns. Like 5 to 10 sec faster than the person who died in it. Yes this would reduce the realism of the game and it would also reduce the effect of someone killing a tank say cause it would be rolling back into battle in no time. But that is the really only valid solution to prevent vehicle whoring. So basically its choose your poison, Less Vehicle whoring or Increase Spawning time for the Equipment?

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            • shiremct

              #21
              Re: Equipment Whoring

              Absolutely Kaiser_Weber...

              While it may sound nice to spawn vehicles back faster than those who just died in them, I think this would increase the pool of players waiting around on the carrier or back for the tank... There are enough, for all practical purposes, AFKs now as it is... especially on the carrier.

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              • Capt_Havok

                #22
                Re: Equipment Whoring

                > So? there also will be other Fighter-jets to take care of em

                That's one of those ideas that works great on paper, but not in reality. Sadly, jet pilots prefer to spend their time bombing infantry, tank ops tend to spend their time bombing infantry, and jeep drivers load up with bombs and try to take out...infantry.

                I know I'm in the minority, that when I'm in a tank and someone says "Enemy armor spotted!" I try my hardest to get there and do a proper tank battle. Hell...me, an eng friend, and elevation took out 3 APC's the other day.

                I know it's not as lucrative to, you know, do your job, but your team sure will appreciate it. (Even though they never thank you...grumblegrumble)

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                • RustyAnkles

                  #23
                  Re: Equipment Whoring

                  Originally posted by alwo
                  Instead of decreasing the spawning rate of vehicles... why not just increase the spawning rate for anyone who died in a plane, that would mean that someone else has the priority of getting into the plane before the persone who just died in the plane...
                  This is a better idea than simply decreasing the spawn time. I think this would solve whoring but it would introduce another problem. How often do you see people standing around and not helping their team on the heli pad? I see it all the time. Half of the team will be on the carrier waiting for vehicles to spawn. Making those vehicles easier to get will only worsen the problem. I could be looking at it wrong but I don't know.

                  Matches would look like this:
                  20 people waiting for their chance at the heli while 10 people run around and try and cap flags. If you knew that waiting at the vehicle spawn point will grant you a vehicle why would you ever foot it? I honestly think it would make things much worse.

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                  • Kaiser_Weber

                    #24
                    Re: Equipment Whoring

                    Originally posted by RustyAnkles
                    This is a better idea than simply decreasing the spawn time. I think this would solve whoring but it would introduce another problem. How often do you see people standing around and not helping their team on the heli pad? I see it all the time. Half of the team will be on the carrier waiting for vehicles to spawn. Making those vehicles easier to get will only worsen the problem. I could be looking at it wrong but I don't know.

                    Matches would look like this:
                    20 people waiting for their chance at the heli while 10 people run around and try and cap flags. If you knew that waiting at the vehicle spawn point will grant you a vehicle why would you ever foot it? I honestly think it would make things much worse.
                    My problem with this is it would be difficult to patch and also if your tank was going to blow up you just jump out of it and kill youself. Then you spawn regualry. I just see it being very very very hard to control.

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                    • Verzili
                      Member
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 969

                      #25
                      Re: Equipment Whoring

                      this is my thought on the matter,but i dont fly heli or planes gave my joystick to a clan m8 who likes flying,
                      how does this sound and im not going for the plz every one thery more of a fare share thery.
                      1.when ppl get the jet they usally av it for long periods if there ace flyers.
                      2.they usally get it again thus giving more time to get even better
                      3.usally finish in top 3 if there ace flyers

                      so why not have a fuel limit say 10 mins max flying time per person per round,
                      or max it to 1 turn per player in a plane / heli per round.
                      ok not everyone wants to fly so how about an invite to fly when its youre turn with a 15 sec vote yes/no to accept youre turn with a maximum of ten min flying time b4 its some on else opurtunity.
                      dont necesarly need to be the way i mentiond it but somthing along the lines of what im saying to give others a chance to imrove.
                      i also dont count single player good pracy for killing unpreticable humans
                      (sors for the spelling)

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                      • N2K

                        #26
                        Re: Equipment Whoring

                        i say put many more that just two of everything, i never seen a battle in war win with only 1 jet or tank on either each side

                        its beautiful site seing a squad of armor clash in a small area, i was on the heli pad at the wetlands map, and i looked over and all the armor from both sides met up at the bridge atleast 2 tanks 3 apcs vs 2 tanks and 3apcs

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                        • Kattspya

                          #27
                          Re: Equipment Whoring

                          I think we should all sit in a circle, hold hands and make up a schedule of vehicle usage before the map starts.

                          Also I think that if someone is at the bottom of the scorelist he should get to kill people for free. We can't have some people being better than others can we?

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                          • Kaiser_Weber

                            #28
                            Re: Equipment Whoring

                            Originally posted by Kattspya
                            I think we should all sit in a circle, hold hands and make up a schedule of vehicle usage before the map starts.

                            Also I think that if someone is at the bottom of the scorelist he should get to kill people for free. We can't have some people being better than others can we?
                            LMFAO!!!!!

                            There we have it the best post to live by.

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                            • imported_DrunkenMonkey

                              #29
                              Re: Equipment Whoring

                              Originally posted by Sir. Claydough
                              how about multiple spawns. you know how when somones got the chopper and u dont get it till its died or blown up. well how about it spawns when even somones using them ??? well mabe
                              Maybe I'm a biased, ground-pounding grunt, but one attack chopper flying around raping everyone is bad enough, multiple attack choppers would be death to all.

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                              • hollowpoint367

                                #30
                                Re: Equipment Whoring

                                Originally posted by Copy_of_Blah
                                Tell me though when in war do reinforcements get reinserted directly into a hot zone after they have been depleted. Nevermind don't tell me.
                                I'm done with it now. This is getting nowhere FAST.
                                Don't play the realism card in the most arcadey war game ever. Do vehicles magically appear on ruwnays and tank bays? Can 1 person drive a tank or APC? Does it take more than a headshot to kill someone? Can you revive people with paddles? I got one, when did a box or bag thrown on the ground last patch up my wounds or refill my supply of ammunition? Or when would planes fly as terribly as they do in BF2? Please, don't even bother with the realism, because it doesn't even exist in BF2.

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