VOIP cons (maybe why some turn it off)

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  • puglous

    #1

    VOIP cons (maybe why some turn it off)

    Now, I know I'd probably get tied up and stoned to death for saying I turn VIOP off when playing BF2. So let me first clarify that I don't. However, I'm starting to use it less and less, sometimes leaving a squad when I hear someone speaking unless it is clear what they are saying is really useful. Why? Here are my 4 main reason:

    1. Plenty of people in squads just use VOIP for casual conversation. This is distracting, and takes away the immersion of the game. Even when they are saying useful things, it's usually in a really casual voice. I don't want to sound like one of those role-playing geeks either by screaming "THEY'VE GOT US SURROUNDED, WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!", but I'd much rather hear the semi-over casual DICE voice acting than someone saying "*yawn* Oh yeah, let's uh...go over to the hotel guys."

    2. More than half the time people on VOIP are really hard to understand. Either their microphone is too close to their mouth, they have their volume too low, or far too high, or, worst of all have a really thick accent from some country/part of the UK I probably don't even know exists. The first 3 can be really tedious to deal with (as it usually takes awhile, and they probably get frustrated even though they don't show it), but the 4th is pretty much unsolvable. What am I supposed to say? "Hey, drop the Gonnaslavian accent, would you? I can only understand proper English." Even if they aren't offended, you can't send them to speech class and get them back in time before the round ends.

    3. I never say anything useful on VOIP, despite my best efforts. 90% of the time I just say something like "hostiles at the hotel" and then forget to spot them so the WHOLE team can know EXACTLY where they are instead of my squad just getting a vague idea. DICE did a great job with the comm rose. Not to mention I have a really hard time explaining myself quickly, so I might say something like "Enemy sniper by the uhhh.....ummmm... construction....3rd level....uh....to the nor-" BOOM 1337Snipa[m95]puglous

    4. I tend to be able to use teamwork without VOIP. For example, if I see someone snipers behind cover and I'm a medic, I don't need to be told "wait here with me and revive me when I go down." I'll do it myself. I even remember an instance on Mashtuur when I and 4 others were pinned down by a tank. Using a clever combination of smoke bombs and well placed medics, we were able to escape alive, without a single VOIP command. Chat built in to the game like "throwing smoke" and "let's move" combined with instinctual "mind reading" capabilities humans have allowed us to get out alive.

    Let the flames begin!
  • Fullforce

    #2
    Re: VOIP cons (maybe why some turn it off)

    Originally posted by puglous
    really thick accent from some country/part of the UK I probably don't even know exists. What am I supposed to say? "Hey, drop the Gonnaslavian accent, would you? I can only understand proper English."
    lol!

    Some good points there, mainly 1 and 3 - I find it really annoying when people are like "um yeah.. lets win." or "ZOMG WE ARE UBER". Its all about experience.

    I also find it hard to think and speak while under pressure - trying to describe anything other than "Sniper on the Crane" becomes near - impossible.

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    • Shae

      #3
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      I'm not going to flame you, because I happen to agree with much of what you said. Nothing and I mean nothing is worse then to have someone screaming, in the voice of a 13 year old kid, huge amounts of profanity into their mic while trying to play the game. I'll use VOIP or TS with people whom I know I can trust not to go all apes**t just because they were killed.

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      • puglous

        #4
        Re: VOIP cons (maybe why some turn it off)

        I'm not going to flame you, because I happen to agree with much of what you said. Nothing and I mean nothing is worse then to have someone screaming, in the voice of a 13 year old kid, huge amounts of profanity into their mic while trying to play the game. I'll use VOIP or TS with people whom I know I can trust not to go all apes**t just because they were killed.
        Another good point I forgot to bring up. Now, I believe the pre/early-teen crowd has as much of a right to inhabit this game as anyone else, this is something else which sounds a bit stupid on VOIP. It's easier to tune out when they type it.

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        • qwero

          #5
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          i hate kids that are screaming on VOIP and screaming useless and retarded things and i hate especially people that ask 100 times if you can hear them instead of just speaking and someone says that he is unhearable.. than if they dont listen to that they are saying things i never listen to and i make my own squad and go lock it and get somewhere behind their lines..

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          • puglous

            #6
            Re: VOIP cons (maybe why some turn it off)

            Hmmm...maybe I worded my post poorly. I wouldn't say all kids on VOIP (I can tell by their voices that they are probably no older than 12) are little brats. I've met 3 or 4, and they all seemed to be nice, polite, and willing to work as a team. I actually have met some jerks on VOIP. None of them sounded like kids.

            That's NOT to say I haven't had an experience with people on VOIP screaming profanities. And, as I stated, those guys are annoying.

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            • Pilot Z

              #7
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              lol this is great. so true. I prefer to just have 2 or 3 friends in my squad and lock it. There we can speak without distractiong others , except when i accidently press 'V' instead of 'B'. Those commanders really do get annoyed.

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              • nocomment111

                #8
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                I understand what you are saying but i happen to take the complete opposite view.

                I actually think that battlefield 2 should be sold with a headset so that everyone can communicate far more effiiciently.

                Even though I understand what you are saying, and agree with it to a degree you cannot beat playing battlefield with 6 squad members who speak clearly and really get into the game. They all go around as a squad and do things that would be impossible without a headset. It is a great feeling when your plan gets pulled off and your squad escapes with everyone congratulating one another.

                If everyone had a headset you could just have squad names like "English" or "German". To get around the language barrier.

                It would also make the game much more strategic ang require more thought than "let's all throw grenades over the wall and hope one kills someone".

                Just my opinion

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                • Tsurany

                  #9
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                  Never use it, it sucks. It turns of the 20 decibel boost my mic needs so when I have voip turned on my mates on ventrilo can't hear me anymore.

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                  • spitsfreeman

                    #10
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                    you know one thing i do miss about bf1942 are some of the com commands..

                    Wait.... For them apc drivers who love to drive off or guys who are about to runn out in to the open fire field of an enemy

                    take cover.... How many times have you seen someone staning out in the open next to you just to get shot in the head

                    i want these 2 comands back :)

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                    • F-1

                      #11
                      Re: VOIP cons (maybe why some turn it off)

                      The worst case when you join a random server and the people start talking all types of languages in this world other than english.

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                      • MMad

                        #12
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                        Half the times I play BF2 I play with my brothers or other people I know, and we always chat on the VOIP all the time. :) Usually about the game though, constantly discussion tactics and objectives, telling each other about enemy movements, giving instructions and suggestions, etc. The game wouldn't be half as fun without the ability to talk to each other all the time. I tend to be quite chatty with complete strangers, as well.. there is never any real teamplay on a squad level if you don't use the voicechat to coordinate people, in my experience. Sounds to me like you're missing out on the fun parts of the game by turning it off. :)

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                        • MWHRowdee

                          #13
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                          I would love to be able to use voip. I can hear other people talk, but they cant hear me. I have checked and rechecked every setting and still cant get it to work.

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                          • nocomment111

                            #14
                            Re: VOIP cons (maybe why some turn it off)

                            Originally posted by MWHRowdee
                            I would love to be able to use voip. I can hear other people talk, but they cant hear me. I have checked and rechecked every setting and still cant get it to work.
                            Try one of going to control panel, then Sounds and audio devices, voice, voice recording and then test hardware. If it does not work try changing the default device to something else. I personally have it set to "back line in/Mic front line in"

                            May as well try it......

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                            • pickled pizza

                              #15
                              Re: VOIP cons (maybe why some turn it off)

                              Originally posted by qwero
                              i hate kids that are screaming on VOIP and screaming useless and retarded things and i hate especially people that ask 100 times if you can hear them instead of just speaking and someone says that he is unhearable.. than if they dont listen to that they are saying things i never listen to and i make my own squad and go lock it and get somewhere behind their lines..
                              Either get the squad leader to kick them from the squad or mute them. It's not difficult...

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