Wake Island and other maps that the other team has big advantage.

[skitzo]

Well, simply enough, Wake Island is a great map but with 2 problems. First is that Chinese has the advantage. So much so that getting on land on the USMC without dieing is hard. Tanks and the such watch the water for boats. When they see one, tons of mounted machine guns including 50 cals and AT rockets spam the boats until they are gone which is easy for them to do. I like being USMC and Chinese alike but sometimes how much they spam the boats is rediculous. Second, the jet whores are a very big problem. You find yourself dieing by the J-10 3 times before you get a kill. I know how to fly but I am not at all good. I wouldn't be able to run over a target and drop a bomb worth crap. I die by J-10's all the time. I want something that could bring down the jets easily. Air to air is not the answer because all the pilots just spam the ground with bombs. I think that if they make the Anti-air weapons on the ground actually capable of destroying the jets. I think that if they make the things follow the jets to the point until it runs out of...rocket fuel or something and be able to destroy a jet in one hit.
I like to be USMC because sometimes it's just so fun having the challenge. Just today The score was 26-0 Chinese but 26-0! We were close and we took 4/5 of the island. Those are the times when I just have core fun...fun the best way. If there wasn't any jet whores then we posibly could've won. Thats why I like Wake, it's the challenge that attracts me, not some round in a map where you just follow the vets that get 40 kills before they die, some game where everyone is needed to win the game. To get on the island easily, take a boat and go out as far as you can so you can barely see the island and get as close to the CP's as close as possible and be the capping machines. You will be to far out so guns won't be able to reach and jet whores won't be paying enough attention...you probably won't be even seen. Anyways, I just wanted to say that Wake isn't the worst map to play, I would put it in the top 5 maps. I hardly see bunny-hopper, dolphin-divers, or noob tubers. Just jet whores but then again, they only kill me if I am in some vehicle.

[imported_bigpappa]

Re: Wake Island and other maps that the other team has big advantage.

no its only hard when no one works together, what needs to happen is to have your 9 squad leaders get on the island, then have everyone spawn on them, essentially u could have 54 spawing at the same time, overwhelming the enemy, but this would never happen on a pub, so we are back to where u started, sucks huh.

[PunisherUK]

Re: Wake Island and other maps that the other team has big advantage.

Chinese has the advantage!? It's the other way round, the USMC only have to bomb there airfield then a drop a full BH and cap there airfield then the game is theres. All the time I play it USMC win because they got an airfield and a carrier.

[Mrs]

Re: Wake Island and other maps that the other team has big advantage.

I have to agree with you. I love Wake, either side I dont care. Im usually one of the first to cap a flag as USMC by using that exact tactic. I never spawn on the carrier, always on the island then grab a boat steer out wide which stops the tanks hitting you and straight up for a back flag/cp. Works everytime, well I think there has been one time when a jet bombed me just as I reached the shore so it works 99.9% of the time. Once the USMC has a flag/cp on the island its go go go. The slaughter usually comes if you dont manage to get to a flag the first time you try, after that the chinese usually cotton on to what you are trying to do.

[Rambo]

Re: Wake Island and other maps that the other team has big advantage.

WTF i think americans have a advantage on purpose because its a westerner built game ,more helos and aromour maybe not that map but 99% of them.GOD i h8 big headed american war mungerz & the AK ****s on the m16 ok-frign chain guns versus donkeys and that gets called in the name of peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[skitzo]

Re: Wake Island and other maps that the other team has big advantage.

The programmers didn't bias it except for alot of the vehicles but think about it. First, the chinese have all of the island so they can get to wherever you are fast. Second, they have armor right from the start so boats are easy pray and the enemy is more than well equiped to take out infrantry. Third, everyone on the Chinese side is watching out for you. I was able to get to the airfield with a squad with no one seeing me. Then 3 people spotted us and wailed on us because we couldn't get away. The place in front of us was to steep to get up through and when we tried to run to a place where we could at least climb, climb slow or not, but they kept following us around. Soon anough I was dead and my squad medic was down and then followed by my squad. No my friends, you can lose easily if your not careful on the USMC but sometimes you can't do anything about losing.

[old sch00l]

Re: Wake Island and other maps that the other team has big advantage.

Guys, this map is tried and tested from BF1942, the USMC have the advantage if the teams are balanced.

Maybe player ranks should be included in the teambalace [/code], just a thought.

[KickPhucker]

Re: Wake Island and other maps that the other team has big advantage.

If you spawn on the artillery and grab a boat you can make it to the south side of the island before ANY vehicle can get there. BUT....you can't wait for even a second. You have to grab the boat and GO! Best is if the squad leader grabs the boat and goes and the rest of the squad either spans on him in the boat or watis till he lands on the island.
Anti-tank is of course vital for this move or you're screwed!

Love,
No one loves you, Die.

[old sch00l]

Re: Wake Island and other maps that the other team has big advantage.

At the end of the day it comes down to the team and the speed of their PC's no god mode with 486's :)

and a decent chopper pilot of course! anti armor from the off

All teh fun of the farm?

[skitzo]

Re: Wake Island and other maps that the other team has big advantage.

Yeah I am always AT on this map for the simple fact of tanks here and there that need to be stopped from killing 10 guys and capping the flag at the same time. Anyhows, I still think that Chinese will win alot of the time. And the south part of the island is owned by Chinese, it's their airfield. Hmm, get a good sniper in my squad get him up there and own all the Jet and heli campers waiting for them. Oh yeah, I got the opposite response from you guys, look at my old post not awhile back. I will get in a awhile here.

EDIT: Here is my old thread and it is short: http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49484

[old sch00l]

Re: Wake Island and other maps that the other team has big advantage.

USMC - the mid leg cap points should be first, then work back to the the end leg caps whilst sending the majority of the troops towards the centre flag ftw tbh lol?

[skitzo]

Re: Wake Island and other maps that the other team has big advantage.

^^^^^lol

Helis and Jets own the boat thus it is hard but I found out how you win and this is the best because I just played today and proved it. All you do is attack all capture points as simultaneously possible. All at the same time. My team just today owned because we captured 3 cps in like the first minute and we easily got there airfield. It was really hard but me and a teammate took like the beach cp and the other one behind it and it didn't take long because there was 2 of us then a squad took another cp in the village at the same time. We were about to have al of the cps then the Chinese took a cp and they took another one soon after so that sucked. But yeah, all at the same time.

[Ramseus]

Re: Wake Island and other maps that the other team has big advantage.

Chinese tend to only watch the arty island. USMC, when they have no flags, have no flags because they have no tactics. I've captured flags by myself on wake no problemo when the rest of the team is just letting themselves get killed, of course getting them to spawn there is another matter entirely.

One time it was one of those rounds where US couldn't get any flags, seemingly, and I was with a squad that landed at the North bottlehead beach. There was an enemy T98 coming along and he was shooting at us, but I just hopped in the empty FAV that spawns there and drove it to the north base. There were some chinese that shot at me, but not a one of them bothered to follow me and stop me from taking the flag. If you DON'T do what the chinese expect you to do, (ie spawn on arty island and hop in a boat that's already locked on by tanks, or take the blackhawk while the j10's are buzzing around) then you'll likely end up taking a flag, but if you just do what everyone else on your team does and the chinese has actual skilled players then you're good as dead. It's called t-a-c-t-i-c-s

[WarGimp]

Re: Wake Island and other maps that the other team has big advantage.

USMC can't get a flag?
Yeah... you need to watch this: http://rapidshare.de/files/10477717/...e.bf2demo.html

Don't tell me the other team was slackin either. We mighta kicked some ass, but those guys put up a hellova fight.

[Boojie]

Re: Wake Island and other maps that the other team has big advantage.

USMC can't get a flag?
Yeah... you need to watch this: http://rapidshare.de/files/10477717/...e.bf2demo.html

Don't tell me the other team was slackin either. We mighta kicked some ass, but those guys put up a hellova fight.

Damn Gimp! 1,626 posts? Geeez. If you play BF2 as much as you post, which is highly likely, you must be like a James Bond out there. I'd hate to run into you on the battlefield.