Most Overrated Weapon

[tillas]

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In my opinion the F2000 is the new L85 in terms of scoped shooting. The great thing about the L85 is the fact that you can pop off single shots VERY accurately, but they didn't do much damage. with the F2000 they do a TON of damage, or at least a ton of damage comparitively. a good sniper may be able to hit you once with rifle, but if you use cover effectively, you can usually pick off the sniper with the F2000 scope before he gets the second shot on you.

In regards to the G36E, it can be a devastating weapon, but like the L85, it is a weapon that you have to learn to master. the L85 can be a GREAT weapon, but you need to learn how to use it and always stay back. regarding this:

Hmm ok then, and yeah I don't know why more people don't start playing medic like I did. Before the G36E, I hated medic, now that its so easy to get kills as a medic, its such a great kit.

you could ALWAYS pwn as a medic, the G36E isn't that much better. I'll agree that it is better than the M16, but the AK-101 is about as good and the AK-47 is better. Medic pwnage is nothing new, but always having a very good gun available for medic is something new.

[Eddy01741]

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In my opinion the F2000 is the new L85 in terms of scoped shooting. The great thing about the L85 is the fact that you can pop off single shots VERY accurately, but they didn't do much damage. with the F2000 they do a TON of damage, or at least a ton of damage comparitively. a good sniper may be able to hit you once with rifle, but if you use cover effectively, you can usually pick off the sniper with the F2000 scope before he gets the second shot on you.

In regards to the G36E, it can be a devastating weapon, but like the L85, it is a weapon that you have to learn to master. the L85 can be a GREAT weapon, but you need to learn how to use it and always stay back. regarding this:

you could ALWAYS pwn as a medic, the G36E isn't that much better. I'll agree that it is better than the M16, but the AK-101 is about as good and the AK-47 is better. Medic pwnage is nothing new, but always having a very good gun available for medic is something new.

Dude, you call the difference in damage between teh L85 and the F2000 a lot. The L85 does 32 damage, the F2000 does 34 damage, YEAH A LOT OF DIFFERENCE (sarcastic). See, these are the posts that i see a lot (no offense, i used to go all around the forum sayin OMG THE G36C is UBER, and stuf like that). A good sniper will easily killl any L85 or f2000 user. Plus, since there is no actual cross in the scope lines, it's hard to line up shots.

[HckyDlsstrs]

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F2000...its sights/scope are crap.

[Hu.Z_of_PLA]

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Dude, you call the difference in damage between teh L85 and the F2000 a lot. The L85 does 32 damage, the F2000 does 34 damage, YEAH A LOT OF DIFFERENCE (sarcastic). See, these are the posts that i see a lot (no offense, i used to go all around the forum sayin OMG THE G36C is UBER, and stuf like that). A good sniper will easily killl any L85 or f2000 user. Plus, since there is no actual cross in the scope lines, it's hard to line up shots.

F2000's two point increase in damage allows you to kill an unarmored person as fast as the G3 (3 shot), so basically you now have a rifle that has comparable power to G3, has a noob tube, scope, AND flashbang.

[Eddy01741]

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F2000's two point increase in damage allows you to kill an unarmored person as fast as the G3 (3 shot), so basically you now have a rifle that has comparable power to G3, has a noob tube, scope, AND flashbang.

To me, elimintate noobtoob and scope cause those arn't good imo, so u just get power of G3 and FB. Plus, the F2000 still takes 5 shots to kill an ARMORED person. It's not that great, i would rather have any other of the AR with FB instead of FB. I mean, the scope isn't better than iron sights, and all the other ARs have noobtoobs too, and all the other ARs except the M16, G36E and L85 do MORE damage than the F2000. I only use the F2000 cause of the FB, they help when capping spawn points.

[imported_ColonelPanic]

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F2000 is very accurate in semi-auto mode for those who don't think it's accurate at all. I'll admit it's not as accuate when in full auto...helluva kick on it, but up 'close' it doesn't matter anyway because you will get the kill unless you get toobed. So, it still is a pretty good weapon, but maybe a little over-hiped.

I just don't like the L85 at all. IMO, that's the real overrated weapon. :)

[imported_ColonelPanic]

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Good point. The stats on the weapons do say alot but I think the look and sounds of the gun etc. really effect how they use it. If they feel that it's *their* gun then perhaps they just feel more comfortable and pwn with it.

Look and feel and individual preference definitely has a lot to do with it.

[Eddy01741]

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Look and feel and individual preference definitely has a lot to do with it.

Ya, i think u would "feel" more powerful if u gave a guy a pistol that looks like a PKM lol.

[tillas]

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To me, elimintate noobtoob and scope cause those arn't good imo

I STRONGLY disagree with you on both of these. The scope is arguably the best in the game, and the nade launcher can pwn as well. if you don't believe me about the scope, I'll play a round of karkand with you or go against you as sniper. in the right hands, that scope alone is one of the best guns in the game. also, I didn't know the F2000 did about the same damage as the L85. interesting.

[vbl]

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Look and feel and individual preference definitely has a lot to do with it.

This bit can't be said enough - some guns just mesh well with our personal rhythms and shooting styles. You can tell pretty quickly when a gun's behavior is dissonant with your own.

Me? I love the standard carbines - the AKS-74U and QBZ-97, in particular, "feel" right. The M4 acts just like I'd expect it to. So does the AK-101.

My big beef with the G36C? The idle animation obstructs my view. Why don't I like the F2000? The sound doesn't offer enough "feedback", and I find the red dot scopes much easier to use when bullseyeing heads. Both are statistically lovely weapons, but in practice, I find myself going back to the others.

[TITAN126]

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When SF was first released, everybody said, "OMFG THE F2000 IS TEH PWNZ0R." Personally, I hate this gun. I don't really have any statistics to back this up, but I've just always felt that it doesn't have much power. I try to avoid it whenever possible.

[Eddy01741]

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I STRONGLY disagree with you on both of these. The scope is arguably the best in the game, and the nade launcher can pwn as well. if you don't believe me about the scope, I'll play a round of karkand with you or go against you as sniper. in the right hands, that scope alone is one of the best guns in the game. also, I didn't know the F2000 did about the same damage as the L85. interesting.

ALthough the nade launcher can own, i've decided to boycott it cause all the noobs use it in point blank range. Plus, i say sniper scopes, L85 scope, and red dot scopes are all better. If the two lines on the F2000 scope crossed, the F2000 wouldn't be an option in this poll, unless u count other lol. Anyways, the thing is, the scope is only 4x magnification, a sniper scope is 10x magnification, in other words, a GOOD sniper can kill u when u cant even see them. Anyways, i would never play sniper on karkand, seriously, Karkand is CQC, i use support, and medic. I only play as sniper when the enemy is stuck at the gatehouse and i just pick them off with the M24. And yes, i agree with ass variable. I don't know how i'm so good with teh SCAR-H i just am. I mean, i'm actually surprised, i kill people full auto when i'm standing at medium range. I don't know how i do it. I mean, maybe i'm just lucky, but i always snipe people with it. It just connects with me in a way, same with the MG36, G36C, and the G36E, except they don't connect to me as much as the SCAR-H.

[I-Kodiak-I]

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Definalty the F2000, and i think most of you will agree 100%, the guns like the G36C is accurate, but still not as overated as the F2000, as you said you can out snipe snipers with it, the F2000GL is more annoying now then the M203, i really hate it, but sometimes it does come in handy, IE flashbangs :evil:

[sidtherat]

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ALthough the nade launcher can own, i've decided to boycott it cause all the noobs use it in point blank range.

you have almost 30% of ALL kills done with noob tube [almost 500], it took you some time to actualy boycot it. i doubt it, anyway

Anyways, i would never play sniper on karkand, seriously, Karkand is CQC, i use support, and medic.

blah blah. my best rounds on karkand are from tanking OR sniping. there are spots that simply ask for a sniper to come and kills to come.

you also wrote sometime ago that you are the super good with support weapons.. your stats say it was a bs.. so i dont know shall i read your posts as a collection of facts, or amusement

ON TOPIC

there is no overrated gun, there IS impact from sounds/animation/feel of a gun. i know all pistols are equal, but i cant hit a sh.. with american one, and an snipe with chinesee one. stats are equal, effect is not

l85 is a nice TOY. i call it a women weapon. it is quiet, nice, good looking and kills from time to time. if somebody can master it, then it is goint to be a good women weapon.

f2000 is a good weapon for mid range and close range - mid range because of scope, and close range, because of damage/rof/cone combination, that allows you to shot witout aiming with high degree of succes. m16 does not give this ability, ak's do.

pkm overrated? in some cases it isnt work taking, in other it is a god send. pkm 'unpacks' slowly, so you hae to walk wit it all the time, rapidly throwing grenades is a problem, same as emerging from vechicles. but when you get used to it it is a infantry [and car and helo] nightmare

from what i read here on the forums pump shotguns are overrated a bit, especialy funny are commnets making them better than pancor. ROF of pums os so low, that their minor damage bonus isnt worth waiting 15secs for respaw. and btw. nobody asks you to spit all 7 shells in one second, with some experience two shots per each victim, reload, rinse, repeat. pump shotguns? a no no

[imported_Evilducky]

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I have more Defibrillator kills than I do with the f2000... I cant hit anythig with the damn thing. The only reason I use it sometimes, is for the flash so I can run around looking for another kit.

I love the M4 and G36E