Damage Reports - By Weapon

[H1gh-Veloc1ty]

I compiled a list that compares the point damage by weapon (non-grenade weapons or pistols):

Assault Rifles
AK47: 38
AK74SU: 29
AK101: 37
FN SCAR H: 34
FN SCAR L: 27
FN2000: 34
G3A3: 40
G36C: 25
G36E: 32
G36K: 28
M4: 25
M16a2: 30
SA80: 32
Type95: 25


Light Machine Guns
MG36: 30
PKM: 45
RPK74: 35
MGType95: 25
M249SAW: 25

SMGs
MP7: 24
MP5: 19
Type85: 19
Bizon: 19

Shotguns
Remington 11-87: 30
Jackhammer: 15
Norinco 982: 30

Sniper Rifles
Dragunov: 45
M24: 95
M95: 190 ??

*couldn't locate DAO-12

Shouldn't SCAR H be more powerful than the AK-47 given the better ballistics of NATO 7.62 vs. lower impulse Russian 7.62? I'm a little miffed here.

[rtgbs7k]

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It is my belief that the M95 does 190 on armour and 95 on human targets. Shotguns do alot more damage than that you wrote. Did you remember to multiply the amount of pellets by their damage?

nice list:)

[H1gh-Veloc1ty]

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It is my belief that the M95 does 190 on armour and 95 on human targets. Shotguns do alot more damage than that you wrote. Did you remember to multiply the amount of pellets by their damage?

nice list:)

Yes you are correct in that the shotgun pellet damaged is multiplied but I'm using the number given on the tweak file.

[jdogg88-Fed]

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not to bad of a list but wrong on the shotguns

[Eddy01741]

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I compiled a list that compares the point damage by weapon (non-grenade weapons or pistols):

Assault Rifles
AK47: 38
AK74SU: 29
AK101: 37
FN SCAR H: 34
FN SCAR L: 27
FN2000: 34
G3A3: 40
G36C: 25
G36E: 32
G36K: 28
M4: 25
M16a2: 30
SA80: 32
Type95: 25


Light Machine Guns
MG36: 30
PKM: 45
RPK74: 35
MGType95: 25
M249SAW: 25

SMGs
MP7: 24
MP5: 19
Type85: 19
Bizon: 19

Shotguns
Remington 11-87: 30
Jackhammer: 15
Norinco 982: 30

Sniper Rifles
Dragunov: 45
M24: 95
M95: 190 ??

*couldn't locate DAO-12

Shouldn't SCAR H be more powerful than the AK-47 given the better ballistics of NATO 7.62 vs. lower impulse Russian 7.62? I'm a little miffed here.

Yep, the SCAR-H should do the same damage as a G3, as it uses the 7.62x51mm NATO bullet compared to the russian 7.62x39 M43 intermediate bullet. BUt the Dragonuv uses the 7.62x54 rimmed bullet, which should do more damage than the M24's 7.62x51 NATO bullet. EA messes with reality to creat balance.

[H1gh-Veloc1ty]

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Yep, the SCAR-H should do the same damage as a G3, as it uses the 7.62x51mm NATO bullet compared to the russian 7.62x39 M43 intermediate bullet. BUt the Dragonuv uses the 7.62x54 rimmed bullet, which should do more damage than the M24's 7.62x51 NATO bullet. EA messes with reality to creat balance.

I think EA's rationale is that the FN-SCAR H has a shorter barrell which means slightly inferior ballistics than the G3 but I still think that the SCAR H would have superior ballistics than the AK-47. I know it's splitting hairs at the end of the day. :laugh:

[Eddy01741]

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I think EA's rationale is that the FN-SCAR H has a shorter barrell which means slightly inferior ballistics than the G3 but I still think that the SCAR H would have superior ballistics than the AK-47. I know it's splitting hairs at the end of the day. :laugh:

Yeah, the SCAR-H would totally own if it did 40 damage like ght G3 though, it would have good damage, great scope, good accuracy, and a 30 round clip unlike the G3's 20 round clip.

[H1gh-Veloc1ty]

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Yeah, the SCAR-H would totally own if it did 40 damage like ght G3 though, it would have good damage, great scope, good accuracy, and a 30 round clip unlike the G3's 20 round clip.

Before seeing the damage number assigned to the SCAR H, I already felt that the SCAR H was not as lethal as either the G3 or AK47. The number seems to reaffirm my assumption.

[Eddy01741]

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Before seeing the damage number assigned to the SCAR H, I already felt that the SCAR H was not as lethal as either the G3 or AK47. The number seems to reaffirm my assumption.

Yeah, it also doesn't sound too powerful. It sounds like it has a somewhat ineffective silencer on it, the G3 and the PKM are the only ones that sound like guns IMO.

[H1gh-Veloc1ty]

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Yeah, it also doesn't sound too powerful. It sounds like it has a somewhat ineffective silencer on it, the G3 and the PKM are the only ones that sound like guns IMO.

That's a good point - these are special forces shouldn't they should have silenced rifle? At least on some missions?

[Zombat]

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I think EA's rationale is that the FN-SCAR H has a shorter barrell which means slightly inferior ballistics than the G3 but I still think that the SCAR H would have superior ballistics than the AK-47. I know it's splitting hairs at the end of the day. :laugh:

Doesn't the barrel length only have a major impact on the accuracy of the gun?

Which is something Dice went tits up on, if I remember right the carbines in this game are more accurate than the full length rifle versions of the guns.

[Digital-Boy]

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Shouldn't SCAR H be more powerful than the AK-47 given the better ballistics of NATO 7.62 vs. lower impulse Russian 7.62? I'm a little miffed here.

Or the more obvious example, why does the AK-101's 5.56mm round do more the SCAR-H?

[Eddy01741]

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Or the more obvious example, why does the AK-101's 5.56mm round do more the SCAR-H?

Yeah, i guess it's for balance reasons. Plus, yeah, the SF should get silenced MP5s, M4's etc. That would be kinda overpowering, unless they take away some of the damage done when silencer is on like in CS.

[H1gh-Veloc1ty]

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Yeah, i guess it's for balance reasons. Plus, yeah, the SF should get silenced MP5s, M4's etc. That would be kinda overpowering, unless they take away some of the damage done when silencer is on like in CS.

Or EA can make the silencer overheat - thus the user would not be able to use it in all situations - would probably be best for mostly semi-auto situations only.

[Eddy01741]

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Or EA can make the silencer overheat - thus the user would not be able to use it in all situations - would probably be best for mostly semi-auto situations only.

Yeah, that too, and yeah, there's no point in silencing at point blank range. It does help if you're sniping though. I could just imagine, a M24 with a silencer.