Memory upgrade question for the knowledgeable.

[Adonlude]

I would like to upgrade my box from 1GB to 2GB. I have 4 slots on my ASUS P4C800 Deluxe, two of witch are filled with a matched pair of Kingston HyperX 512KB sticks.

I dont really want to spend the money for another matched pair of HyperX sticks. I have read in my manual that it is ok for your second matched pair of memory to be different from your first matched pair. My question is that if I buy cheaper ValueRam (higher CAS Latency) for my second matched pair will it effect my first matched pair?

The BIOS only has one setting for latency so I am wondering if my computer would automatically clock my HyperX memory at the slower speed of the value ram. I am just worried that adding a gig of value ram would effectually turn my other gig of HyperX into value ram.


OH, on a completely unrelated note, how the hell do you disable Norton Antivirus before starting up BF2? I use System Works 2005 with AV and I get "access denied" every time I try to end any of its processes.

[[F.E.A.R]Cicada]

Re: Memory upgrade question for the knowledgeable.

yes it will affect your latenct...lowest common denoninator

[wrxlvr]

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and to disable NAV, you should be able to cntrl, alt, del and then under "processes" shut it down.

[vbl]

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I have one matched pair of high quality Corsair RAM in one channel, and two different brands (Kingston and Infineon; I had them sitting around, so I figured why not) running in the second channel.

Not only has the improvement from 1-2 GB been remarkable, especially in loading time, but I've never had a crashing, freezing, or performance issue as a result of the mismatched DIMMs.

[imported_Psycho]

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Indeed as one person said before the whole of the RAM sticks will run on the lowest CAS latency, making the extra money you spent on the original ram to havea a lower CAS latency worthless.

[LaserCobra]

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I'll go ahead and third the comments above.

Going from one gig to two will probably outway the loose timing hit you get from the cheaper ram but I would spring for the better stuff.

I like my rig to be as fast as possible. Pay now - pay later - makes no difference. You're still paying. =)

[Adonlude]

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Great responses thanks! I guess Ill have to get the faster RAM then so as not to waste the potential of what I already have. It just sux to spend money on RAM that I probably wont be able to use a few years from now when I have to upgrade to the next generation of computer.

[LaserCobra]

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That's the nature of the beast. This is my dilemma and most people's too- they just don't realize it yet:

As far as I know, all card makers are no longer developing on the AGP platform because it's a dying technology. So now you are forced to get PCI-E.

If I want to upgrade to a new card, this is the snowball of things:

Get new PCI-E card
Get new motherboard with PCI-E slot
Get new CPU because socket changed
Get new PSU to power PCI-E card
Probably get new DDR2 ram if that catches fire and becomes the industry standard.

All the above because I wanted the newest graphics card. An item that is usually upgradeable without a major overhaul.

My existing setup isn't too bad:
Asus P4C800E Deluxe mobo
2.4CGHz @ 3.0GHz
1Gig Kingston HyperX PC3200 @ 420MHz
BFG 6800GT OC running at Ultra speeds (402/1.10)
Western Digital Raptor S-ATA hard drive (10,000 RPM)
Thermaltake 560W psu

The cpu has gone 3.2GHz while I was watercooled but the memory can't take it.

Sorry to go on and on but it sucks to build up a machine and have to upgrade to keep up with the masses but it sucks more to build up a rig just before the technology dies.


I think I’ve gone too far…. Where’s my damn medication…..

[imported_Psycho]

Re: Memory upgrade question for the knowledgeable.

Great responses thanks! I guess Ill have to get the faster RAM then so as not to waste the potential of what I already have. It just sux to spend money on RAM that I probably wont be able to use a few years from now when I have to upgrade to the next generation of computer.

You can just switch the RAM into the new Mobo if it is still reaonable new, or switch a 512MB for a 1GB if you need more.
2GB sticks are starting to become "slightly" more common now.

[Regent]

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You can just switch the RAM into the new Mobo if it is still reaonable new, or switch a 512MB for a 1GB if you need more.
2GB sticks are starting to become "slightly" more common now.

2 Gb sticks are not becoming "slightly" more applicable on any platform, anywhere. And no, you can't "switch a 512MB for a 1GB" if the latencies are disparate, without major performance degradation. PC3200 1 Gb sticks x 2 are the most common configuration for advanced gaming system lately, and will continue to be so for at least a year.

If you get an "Access Denied" message while trying to end a process, you are obviously limited by your Admin status on that machine.

[imported_Zach]

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If you get an "Access Denied" message while trying to end a process, you are obviously limited by your Admin status on that machine.

No, that's not true exactly. That would only apply to a process (i.e., a program). NAV is running as a service, and whether or not a service can be killed (via the "End Process..." signal) is strictly dependent on the service itself. NAV, for example, cannot be killed--it wouldn't be a very effective antivirus program if it could, now would it? :p

Anyway, to the OP, you should have a system tray icon for NAV (you know, down there by your clock). You disable NAV from there. If there is no tray icon (and/or you don't feel like unhiding it), you can shut down NAV directly from NAV, i.e., launch NAV and just disable stuff. If you can't do it from any of these places, then yes, as goof72 stated, you need a higher priviledged account.

Edit: For what it's worth, though, disabling NAV will not gain you any FPS points and it most likely won't make the game any more stable regardless of what EA states in their silly manual (for every game).

[Regent]

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NAV, for example, cannot be killed--it wouldn't be a very effective antivirus program if it could, now would it? :p

:laugh: No, I guess it wouldn't. (That's what happens when you post too late at night..)

[imported_Psycho]

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2 Gb sticks are not becoming "slightly" more applicable on any platform, anywhere. And no, you can't "switch a 512MB for a 1GB" if the latencies are disparate, without major performance degradation. PC3200 1 Gb sticks x 2 are the most common configuration for advanced gaming system lately, and will continue to be so for at least a year.

I had already stated that if the sticks had different latencies then it would work on the lower one, therefore it was pretty damn obvious when i said "switch a 512MB for a 1GB" that i meant sticks with the same characteristics.
And 2GB sticks are becoming more commonly made maybe not for gaming but for use in servers, mainly ones that run on linux, as it can use up to 64GB of RAM where as windows xp can only use 4GB.