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  • WarGimp

    #1

    Black Hawk Whoring... not dead!

    Lately, I've noticed transports sitting on their pads rustin or being used in rather silly ways on the field. Ever since the 1.03 patch, people seem to have lost interest in these things. Really, it's too bad since they can be used to powerful effect.

    Situationally, you don't want to try this when the enemy have air superiourity (obviously and much like the real world), but it will work on more than just Mash City.

    The following is re-posted from another thread that got me thinging about this and how maybe it could use it's own thread.

    The "perfect" tansport Helo squad:
    Chopper crew:
    - Medic as SL flying (since he is the least likely to be killed by ground fire and he heals anyone in the back that might take a hit or two)
    - Support guy on "primary" gun (since he doesn't have to activly use his resupply and he's got thick armour. Primary gun refers to the side that's going to be facing the heat.)
    - Engineer for gunner 2 (if fixing is required, he can change positions).

    Passangers:
    - Spec opps/assualt/AT to fill out the seats. As many as needed. These guys should be ready and willing to bail out at any time to re-enforce ground troops, take flags, or capture assets. When they die on the ground, the can just respawn in the chopper and repeat.

    Engineers and spec opps should be ready to toss out boomers when required. AT fire from a helo can be damned effective too. As long as the supply guy is alive, you've got unlimited ammo so go nuts!

    Best use:
    The pilot should circle target checkpoints allowing the primary gunner to lay in heavy fire doing as much damage as possible. After a circle or two drop off your passangers a short distance for the CP and continue to circle. This lets them move into position without being too vunerable on their chutes or obvious by dropping right on the CP.
    If the CP is fully supressed, the pilot can now move in to hover and assist in the capture. If the target is still hot, keep circling and providing cover fire for your ground guys.

    Special note to pilots: Get used to aprouching hot zones indirectly. If your nose is pointing at the target, your gunners aren't going to be able to hit anything. Either aprouch by heading to the side of the target zone OR (and I love doing this) get used to flying in sideways. It's a little tricky, but if you've got good communication with your gunners, it's not too bad.

    This is a screamingly powerful tactic that I don't see being used much.
  • Cougs

    #2
    Re: Black Hawk Whoring... not dead!

    Sounds good, but you will need to have a really good squad or be in a clan to be able to get that kinda teamwork.

    I use the Bh whenever I need it, I never did Whore in it, I love using it for what it is there for, it is just soo cool when you have a full squad and you take them to the little island that the US have on Wake Island in the MEC Chopper and land and they all just bail out and get a good position to cover the Spec-Ops while they blow the assets and they all jump back in and your off to help out on the main island.

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    • bitvomit

      #3
      Re: Black Hawk Whoring... not dead!

      gotta love it when a spec ops guy steals your BH and uses it to mow down all the plane campers on your carrier.

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      • WarGimp

        #4
        Re: Black Hawk Whoring... not dead!

        It does take a perty good squad to be able to do this well, but I've managed to put groups together on pubs without too much trouble. The "prefect" squad is something that's only likely to happen with a clan or a bunch o buddies, but you can still be quite effective reguardless.

        On Wake, I LOVE circling MEC checkpoints and laying down the thunder. I've given a handful of people their new best kill streaks.

        I always get a laugh when people make comments like "wow! I didn't know you could do this with a Blackhawk!" or "Whoa! You're the best pilot!". I get a lot of comments when I aprouch CPs sideways.

        Hehe, then again, it's not uncommon to have some kiddy whining like crazy when I'm using it as a stand off/support platform instead of rushing to hover over the CP while it's still hot.

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        • jdogg88-Fed

          #5
          Re: Black Hawk Whoring... not dead!

          thats not to bad i do hate they took out chopper whoring its so much fun shooting down a big load of them

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          • vbl

            #6
            Re: Black Hawk Whoring... not dead!

            I prefer to use the Blackhawk as a mobile gun platform.

            Fly it to desired location, land on reasonably flat surface, then man a gun to cover an enemy flag or defend a friendly one.

            Extra points if you're a squad leader.

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            • WarGimp

              #7
              Re: Black Hawk Whoring... not dead!

              Originally posted by ||ass||variable
              I prefer to use the Blackhawk as a mobile gun platform.

              Fly it to desired location, land on reasonably flat surface, then man a gun to cover an enemy flag or defend a friendly one.

              Extra points if you're a squad leader.
              Would this not be a better idea if you had someone to man that gun while you continue to move it?

              Hmm... I wonder if there's a place I can stick a BFR .demo file to demonstrate using the BH as an effective mobile firing platform...

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              • CaptainPuffy

                #8
                Re: Black Hawk Whoring... not dead!

                I've found a good squad leader, and have been playing with him lately. Every time a BH comes around, he orders all of us to have all guns on the blackhawk. Its soo funny to see a blackhawk retreat from a group of 6 guys firing at it with everything from small arms to AT missiles. You'd be surprised how quickly one of those can be taken down when you have that many bullets striking its hull. We rarely bring them down, but we always get them to retreat to a helipad.

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                • WarGimp

                  #9
                  Re: Black Hawk Whoring... not dead!

                  Hehe, yeah it's quite possible to chase BHs off. I find that the G3 and PKM are both great for taking the gunners outta the bird.

                  BTW, SubZeroCK (the guy you quote in your sig) was on my squad a couple nights ago while I was BH whoring. We got shot down from time to time, but we had a big impact on the battle.

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                  • CommanderD

                    #10
                    Re: Black Hawk Whoring... not dead!

                    I just use it as a flying tank the guns are amazing on maps like Mashtur if you have a good BH crew then the US is sure to win.

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                    • vbl

                      #11
                      Re: Black Hawk Whoring... not dead!

                      Originally posted by Wargimp
                      Would this not be a better idea if you had someone to man that gun while you continue to move it?

                      Hmm... I wonder if there's a place I can stick a BFR .demo file to demonstrate using the BH as an effective mobile firing platform...
                      Probably, but like you said, most people leave them on the landing pads. Further, it's an unconventional tactic and a lot of people have trouble dealing with it. It also keeps the BH safe from most of its natural enemies, such as static AA, since you position the BH out of the line of fire, instead of being high up and vulnerable to threats from more places.

                      I know it violates your teamwork ideals, but I've done it many times - especially to suppress spawning troops at a flag while my main forces move in.

                      That's my style of gameplay, and I tend to work better when I can execute my own initiatives without having to worry about a squad.

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                      • WarGimp

                        #12
                        Re: Black Hawk Whoring... not dead!

                        True dat.
                        I'm not gonna get all huffy about violating my "teamwork ideals". If it works, use it (the unoffical moto of my old dojo ).

                        I'm just trying to underline an aspect of them whirly birds that does support good teamwork. If more people are made aware of how potent it can be, maybe it won't be so damned hard to get a decent crew going!

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                        • CtrlAltDe1337
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                          • Feb 2007
                          • 1431

                          #13
                          Re: Black Hawk Whoring... not dead!

                          Lately, I've noticed transports sitting on their pads rustin or being used in rather silly ways on the field. Ever since the 1.03 patch, people seem to have lost interest in these things. Really, it's too bad since they can be used to powerful effect.

                          Situationally, you don't want to try this when the enemy have air superiourity (obviously and much like the real world), but it will work on more than just Mash City.

                          The following is re-posted from another thread that got me thinging about this and how maybe it could use it's own thread.

                          The "perfect" tansport Helo squad:
                          Chopper crew:
                          - Medic as SL flying (since he is the least likely to be killed by ground fire and he heals anyone in the back that might take a hit or two)
                          - Support guy on "primary" gun (since he doesn't have to activly use his resupply and he's got thick armour. Primary gun refers to the side that's going to be facing the heat.)
                          - Engineer for gunner 2 (if fixing is required, he can change positions).

                          Passangers:
                          - Spec opps/assualt/AT to fill out the seats. As many as needed. These guys should be ready and willing to bail out at any time to re-enforce ground troops, take flags, or capture assets. When they die on the ground, the can just respawn in the chopper and repeat.

                          Engineers and spec opps should be ready to toss out boomers when required. AT fire from a helo can be damned effective too. As long as the supply guy is alive, you've got unlimited ammo so go nuts!

                          Best use:
                          The pilot should circle target checkpoints allowing the primary gunner to lay in heavy fire doing as much damage as possible. After a circle or two drop off your passangers a short distance for the CP and continue to circle. This lets them move into position without being too vunerable on their chutes or obvious by dropping right on the CP.
                          If the CP is fully supressed, the pilot can now move in to hover and assist in the capture. If the target is still hot, keep circling and providing cover fire for your ground guys.

                          Special note to pilots: Get used to aprouching hot zones indirectly. If your nose is pointing at the target, your gunners aren't going to be able to hit anything. Either aprouch by heading to the side of the target zone OR (and I love doing this) get used to flying in sideways. It's a little tricky, but if you've got good communication with your gunners, it's not too bad.

                          This is a screamingly powerful tactic that I don't see being used much.
                          Oh, my clan mates and I have done better than that before =)

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                          • <<R2>>ctskier

                            #14
                            Re: Black Hawk Whoring... not dead!

                            GRRRR when people park the black hawk on a hill and just spray a base from there.That always ticks me off.

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                            • WarGimp

                              #15
                              Re: Black Hawk Whoring... not dead!

                              I think I'm gonna have to try this.
                              :evil:
                              It could actually be a good way to back up a ground attack if you are short on man power. If you're still an SL, people can still spawn on you and push hard on that point.

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