Engineer Badge: A Challenge

[Tactical_Marksman]

I just had a 'tips' post explaining two ways to earn the Veteran Engineer badge sent to the vault simply because a moderator felt the self-professed, though in my opinion necessary, stat-padding techniques were "Lame."

So here's my challenge...

Everybody who's earned the Veteran Engineer badge through "Normal Gameplay" please post your map, team, and method. Even better, I want to see someone explain how the 25 repair points required for the Expert Engineer Badge can be earned through any method (be it normal gameplay, stat-padding, or exploit).

I normally hate stat-padders, but believe the game developers (Dice) made the Engineer badge requirements unrealistically high. They discourage repairing team assets by awarding so few points for so much effort and make the Expert badge as obtainable as a real G36 to a US Civilian.

I'm not going to argue with the moderators or start a flame war. All I want is to be proven wrong, especially as my post was intended to help others... Show me how it's really done guys, show me resorting to stat-padding for the Veteran and Expert Engineer badges really is lame.

[DarkObsidian]

Re: Engineer Badge: A Challenge

Fact is, engineer is not easy anymore. However, awards are around to sort the men from the boys, if anyone can get the badge what makes it special? Nothing. If you can't do it, then maybe it's not for you. If you run out there and repair everything you possibly can, which shouldn't be too difficult seeing as though there aren't many people who use engineers anymore. I wish you luck though, and I would like to know where a civlian can buy a G36 :P

[DrunkenPirate]

Re: Engineer Badge: A Challenge

I agree that the requirements for repair points and engineer awards are unrealistic, but having posts showing people how to exploit are not welcome, I stand by my decision.

[Tactical_Marksman]

Re: Engineer Badge: A Challenge

Yeah, I agree with you. I've worked hard for all my badges, but the Veteran Engineer badge confounded me. The rounds never lasted long enough, so I used a stat-padding method. I just believe the balance on the time repaired/points earned is off, especially when you need 25 points for the expert badge.

By the way, I mentioned the G36 for that reason. The Heckler & Koch G36 series was developed after 1986, so no select fire G36s can be owned by US Civilians...ever. Even if HK made a semi-auto only G36, it would not meet the requirements of the Import Ban and as HK does not have a factory in the US (even with one theoretically being built in Georgia) it could not make this rifle domestically. In short, the closest you can come to owning a G36 is purchasing and HK SL8 and doing a conversion... like I have done.

So DarkObsidian, what map, team, and method did you use for your Veteran Engineer badge, and what's your highest repair point record from normal gameplay?

EDITED for moderator comment: It's your house, and I certainly have benefited from these boards, so I've no place to tell you how to do your job. I just disagreed with throwing the issue into the void so I started this thread, hoping people could contribute 'acceptable' means of attaining the unobtainable.

[DrunkenPirate]

Re: Engineer Badge: A Challenge

Yea, I won;t deny it, 25 points in a round is not possible unless you are on a 64 player server with about 10 people and the round lasts forever.
Maybe that's how these people got the vet badges, empty servers with no timelimit.

[DarkObsidian]

Re: Engineer Badge: A Challenge

Currently, I haven't been gaining rank and have nothing to show for myself :P Thats an interesting little trick about the import ban though.
My advice for getting it? Hop in a tank and when he gets hit and usualy will back away for cover prone on the SIDE, not behind, he can't see you behind him, and repair him. If he's battling another tank, he should take a bit of damage, but be careful not to get hit yourself.

[Tactical_Marksman]

Re: Engineer Badge: A Challenge

You'd also need at least 250 tickets per side, with nobody capturing flags. Such a situation isn't likely to occur naturally, so what we'd end up with is a select few people who own servers with the Expert badge because they could create the highly restricted environment necessary to 'earn' it. In my opinion, that's worse than the methods I mentioned as it exploits the server admin's powers, possibly violating the EULA even.

I still maintain that there is a distinction between stat-padding and an exploit, though. As much as people hated Blackhawk crews before 1.03, it took teamwork, coordination, and communication to make it work. I call that good gameplay. An exploit is taking advantage of a programming flaw, such as the invincible spot in Dragon Valley that can be reached via a wall-clipping flaw (I know this exploit, and go out of my way to show admins of servers I visit how it's done so they know what to watch for and who to ban). This is truly cheap, and I'd not post how to do it openly here even if it were permitted.

[hightow]

Re: Engineer Badge: A Challenge

The problem seems to be that the round ends to quickly, right? So all you need to do is find the proper server. I got my veteran badge on Kudra Dam, repairing assets and other teammates' vehicle. The server had set its timelimit beyond 30 mins and it wasn't overcrowded.
Enough said, good luck. :)

[DavidG64]

Re: Engineer Badge: A Challenge

Everybody who's earned the Veteran Engineer badge through "Normal Gameplay" please post your map, team, and method.

Play as an engineer. repair stuff. :p

Since I seem to have aquired this badge and have never used any lame tactics I question how hard it is. I have no idea when or how I got it. I simply like to play as an engineer and like repairing things. I also consider myself a pretty mediocre player at best so is it really that hard? Now the Expert badge is probobaly a different storey

Edit: although I think i probably got the badge before version 1.03 so i guess it is harder now.

[The_Misfit]

Re: Engineer Badge: A Challenge

getting 5-10 in a round seems like an eternity...the BH used to be a good place to work on this, but with fixing in a BH dumbed down a bit that won't work.

Honestly, I see no real way in 'normal' gameplay to rack up 25 repair points in one round. Of the 3 classes, repair points are by far the hardest to obtain. Support and Medic have it easy compared with the engys

[PBAsydney]

Re: Engineer Badge: A Challenge

Veteran:

Songhua Stalemate, USA, enemy had our main, kept destroying our stuff, but I killed them with my trusty ole' 12 gauge and repaired the assets.

[Auto-ER-]

Re: Engineer Badge: A Challenge

Songhua or Sharqi, those are two that are constantly having the assets blown since both are easy to get to and pivotal points for winning. Spawn engi and have a day.

[imported_Spuddy]

Re: Engineer Badge: A Challenge

I got a veteran engineer on a full 64 player server running Dalian Plant.

Basically all I did was repair the AA on the carrier, which was heavily attacked by the chinese pilots.

I could quite easily stat-pad to get expert, but I really want to try and get it fairly.

[coco]

Re: Engineer Badge: A Challenge

Got mine (post 1.03) in a Cobra on a 64 server with no time limit.
Its the quickest way to get around from repair to repair.
Hover over anything that needs repairing, and dont forget to land quickly to fix the Cobra as well.
I wasnt even trying to get the badge.

[coco]

Re: Engineer Badge: A Challenge

Also done forget to take a medic in seat 2.
Comes in dam handy.