Staff Officer Ribbon

[r0uJe]

Re: Staff Officer Ribbon

why do u need a tank and few ppl on the server to get staff officer ribbon?

so you can get the kills thus giving you more points? i'm not sure but if you kill someone as commander with your weapon, don't you get 2 pts for that?

i'm thinking since you need 50 commander pts WITHOUT the x2 bonus + 28 minutes IAR, a big karkand server with few ppl will surely last for more than 30 minutes. so that takes care of time requirement. as for the 50 pts, you can use the tank to give you kills and points (?).

at least that's how i got mine in 1.02...

[BeerStein]

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Or just constantly bombard their rear bases with Artillery to get alot of points for killing jet and helicopter whores. It works very well being a MEC commander on Gulf of Oman. Because there is little cover and not alot of space on the carrier.

NO NO NO NO NO - you are only hurting your commander pts by doing this. FFS - have you not read anything about how to get commander pts?

YOU DO NOT GET ANY....let me say that again DO NOT GET ANY - NONE, NADA, ZIP, ZERO POINTS FOR KILLS AS A COMMANDER even if they are with arty.

Look at the other threads - read up.

[BeerStein]

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For those too lazy to read the other threads.

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6553

Commander Points and Commander Bonus

How Commander Points work

The formula for commander points is:

Total score earned by the team / # of players = Commander score.

Back in the days when BF2 players were still trying to figure out the forumula, many believed it was the average score per player in the team, even the crappy BF2 manual stated this theory. However, many pointed out several flaws in this theory, either by testing it or giving a counter scenario such as: "Why won't commander's score drop if the average score of each player decreases?"

The word that was missing in the theory that the commander score is based on the average score per player was EARN. This word drastically changes how the commander earns its points and explains various causes that lead to commanders getting points.

Again, I shall remind you:
Commander score formula: Total points earned by team / # of players in the team.

You see, when the average points earned by player goes up, the commander's score also increases. What's so unique about this formula compared to others is that commanders are immune to point reduction if their team's average score decreases due to TKs or other similar acts. Also, it safegaurds commanders from losing points or being delayed from earning their points if one or few of their teammates, especially players that gained high # of points, leaves the server hence dropping the average points per player.

This formula also explains why commanders get points if a player kills a spotted enemy either by commander's spot command or UAV and why commanders earn points if their teammates captures the flag.

In addition, it encourages the commander to keep supporting their team to earn more points via UAV, Spots, and Supplies. Furthermore, since commanders do not get any points from artillery, they steal kill points (1 Kill = 2 points) from thier teammates and thus commanders must carefully decide whether to use artillery against its foes that could be dealt with by friendlies. After all, friendlies get points for killing, but you do not (CMDR achieving 1 Kill/Assist/Capture = 0 points).

Do you see the irony? Killing enemies or capturing flags alone as commander will make you steal points from your teammates and therefore, by the formula, you will also be robbed of potential commander points.

Example of the formula in the works: In the first half of the match, your team consists of 20 players who earn a total of 400 points. However, due to Teamkills and other related incidents, your team has an overall total score of 325. In the 2nd half, 10 players from your team disconnects the server and thus you have a total of 10 players in your team. They earn a total of 300 points but due to TKs and other related incidents, your team has an overall total score of 250.

So with the given information, what's the total possible score a commander would get before the 2x bonus? Lets see:

1st half: 400 points earned / 20 players = 20 points per players
= 20+ for commander

2nd half: 300 points earned / 10 players = 30 points earned per player
= 30+ for commander

The total score a commander could have before 2x bonus is 50.

Commander Bonus

As you know, only Commanders get 2x bonus if his team wins. However, it's not actually a 2x bonus but it's good enough to describe it generally. In truth, the game doesn't actually double your score, but actually adds the commander points you earned to your total score. The significant effect of this rule is

-Even if somehow, such as teamkill, you lose points, the bonus will still account for that point

-No one can double their points simply by becoming the commander just before the round ends.

So let's say you had the total of 50 commander points and overall of 50 points. You score 2 teamkills, giving -8 to your overall score to 42. The round ends with your team winning the round. Instead of 42 x 2 = 84, you actually get 92 points. Why? Because the game actually adds your overall score to the commander points you earned, so it's actually 42 + 50 = 92.

Conclusion, the formula is: Total Score + Commander Points Earned, not Total Score x 2.

Finally, players who rack up a lot of points by kills, teamwork points, and flag captures and quickly be commander before the round ends do not double his score because he had no commander points to be added to his total score at all.

[imported_sabotage]

Re: Staff Officer Ribbon

This formula also explains why commanders get points if a player kills a spotted enemy either by commander's spot command or UAV and why commanders earn points if their teammates captures the flag.

Do you see the irony? Killing enemies or capturing flags alone as commander will make you steal points from your teammates and therefore, by the formula, you will also be robbed of potential commander points.

How does the commander get points by dropping supplies? Only if supplies are asked for and given?

[x0pht]

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How does the commander get points by dropping supplies? Only if supplies are asked for and given?

no it does NOT give u points, read the post man.

[BirdKiller]

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How does the commander get points by dropping supplies? Only if supplies are asked for and given?

People usually have claimed that commanders get points if they either drop a supply/UAV when requested or when the supply heals, repairs, or reammos the team to a certain point. This is false, the supply crates only [i]aid[/b] your teammates to get more points.

[imported_sabotage]

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So UAV is critical to getting points!

[BirdKiller]

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Yes, it's critical, but not directly associated to your commander points, just remember that.

[ICPO]

Re: Staff Officer Ribbon

get on big maps with few players for thazt ribon

Thats the best advice anyone could have given. Just screwing around I got Staff Officer Ribbon, Basic Command and a bunch of other basic combat kits. Round lasted like two hours!

[imported_sabotage]

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Thats the best advice anyone could have given. Just screwing around I got Staff Officer Ribbon, Basic Command and a bunch of other basic combat kits. Round lasted like two hours!

Lucky you

[imported_sabotage]

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I got it, thanks for all you help. Have a look at my shiny new ribbon

[TriggerHappy2005]

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Just play and practice and all will make sense.

[Seal]

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I got it on 64 player Songhua Stalemate with 10 people... I got veteran comader in the same game.

[imported_sabotage]

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I got it on 64 player Songhua Stalemate with 10 people... I got veteran comader in the same game.

Ya needs to be a large server with few people on it.