PUNISHING Poll

**vbl** · 10-27-2005, 04:05 PM

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You'd have to combine that with a consistent server setting to kick at a certain negative score, and remove negative points for suicides.

**Donkey** · 10-27-2005, 04:05 PM

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No the TK system works fine with a few exceptions...

Those few exceptions are dealing with the mines and the occasional bug when a friendly crashes and TKs his buddies...other than that the option to punish should be there...since this is what relates to the kick and ban....

And sorry but if you killed your buddy you should be penalized unless it was an extreme accident...But being in a tank and seeing your buddy fighting it out with another guy at knife fighting range doesn't mean you should fire a tank shell and frag both of them...

**raceacontari** · 10-27-2005, 04:16 PM

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i think the tk system sucks...tk = -4 points, punish equals another -4...that really hurts your score, and sometimes its something totally stupid! I somehow killed a team mate by sitting in a tank. I wasn't moving, I wasn't even turning the gun, I was sitting still and somehow got a tk, and punished! I like the idea of punishing but it should be something more like...it adds up or something. your first teamkill of the level is -1 point, punish is another -1. If you get another tk, its -2 points, and -2 for a punish. that way it would still punish those a-holes that tk for fun since after 10 tks lol, a possible -20 points. But it would also keep people from punishing for stupid things like running in front of your moving 70 ton tank which doesn't exactly brake on a dime.

**SpeedyGonzales** · 10-27-2005, 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by SuperDonkey

No the TK system works fine with a few exceptions...

Those few exceptions are dealing with the mines and the occasional bug when a friendly crashes and TKs his buddies...other than that the option to punish should be there...since this is what relates to the kick and ban....

And sorry but if you killed your buddy you should be penalized unless it was an extreme accident...But being in a tank and seeing your buddy fighting it out with another guy at knife fighting range doesn't mean you should fire a tank shell and frag both of them...

You almost make my entire point for me...
how can you say 'its ok with a few exceptions..' lol.

A standard 2 point deduction would be fine.. over and done with..
and you wont have to see any more chat texts saying 'why did you
punish me you &!@^*&^&'

**notbob** · 10-27-2005, 04:33 PM

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Just imagine if Engineers weren't afraid to lay mines?
I apolagized to one the other day for driving over someones mines. I did not punish.
I've considered hunting down punishers for the rest of the match.

**yzfwv** · 10-27-2005, 04:51 PM

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I had a run in today that was total crap. I was playing on a wake 24/7 server with punish turned off. There was this one guy on our team named *commando20 and he was constantly running around killing people...enough so that he caused us to lose. His points at the end of the round were about -250.

Now why didn't we just /vote kick him? Ever try that? Do you know how hard it is to get 2/3rd of the people on the server, especially the people on the other team to vote off some one like that? We tried constantly and could only ever get 14-15 votes at the most. It completely ruined the game and was bringing down other people's scores because they were frustrated and just started killing him back.

The /punish system needs to be in place to stop people like that...

**imported_The 13th Raptor** · 10-27-2005, 04:56 PM

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The TK system should be smart, for example, shooting some-one with a .50 cal sniper in the head should warrent for a automatic kick, its a diliberate TK, 99.99999% of the time. Mines that have been present for 10 seconds, should only cause "no more" deaths for team mates. TK's from AA missles should also only be "no mores". Sure its alot of work, but it would work.

**SpeedyGonzales** · 10-27-2005, 06:44 PM

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The voting in BF2 is total crap... its rarely successful.. even in
obvious cases..

as far as the comment that there needs to be a punish system because
there are tk'ers.. NO.. there needs to be a reasonable TKing setting on
the server.. which IS a setting in the bf2cc admin control.

Ive been commander (before the 1.03 patch..) and gotten kicked for
artying my own teammates twice in a round.. 2 tks in too few.. 4 would
be reasonable, imo.. that would take care of the smacktards who are
purposely tking people all game, but yet allow legitimate accidents to
happen.

**Neat_Hedgehog** · 10-27-2005, 06:55 PM

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I'd like to see it where getting a TK didn't result in any negative points unless you were punished for it.

**SpeedyGonzales** · 10-27-2005, 07:01 PM

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86% so far dont like the way it is currently.. 20/23

**Jesse** · 10-27-2005, 07:02 PM

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Delete it. Make people actually admin their server, with maybe a negative score of 10 or something an automatic kick/ban that you get for punishes now.

**o0|REDRUM|0o** · 10-27-2005, 07:36 PM

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-2 for TK's
at -8 you get an automatic boot off the server
You have the option to FORGIVE. They don't get charged with the TK or point loss.
The max un-forgiven Tk's is 4, and thats pretty hard to do in a round, unless your trying. That system has worked quite well in many past games. It seems to promote a friendlier environment as well, maybe being nicer to teammates looking for the forgiveness.

**WarGimp** · 10-27-2005, 07:39 PM

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Good lord.
Look at all the cry babies.
You'd think that getting a TK punishment is a big deal or something.
:shakehead
The system works well for smaking down the stupid things that people do.
Personally, I almost never punish, but I like having the option there. I like being able to forgive that "oops" he came around the corner too fast and ran me down situation. I like being having the option to punish some moron that thinks lobbing grenades into the middle of a close quarters firefight is a good idea.

I like being able to excersize my own personal judgment.

That said, there are some issues with the TK system... but these ARE NOT EASY issues to adress.
Take mine TKs. If you remove the TK from friendly mines, how long do you think it would take griefers to start abusing it by dropping mines right on top of their teams vehicles?
Likewise, if you remove the roadkill TKs for teamates jumping out of your vehicle, how are you going to stop them from intentionally backing over you?

If you do away with the system all together, what is going to stop BF2 from desending into TK/grieffer madness like almost every other game out there?

I really wish there was more thinking and less whining going on around here.

**Neat_Hedgehog** · 10-27-2005, 08:03 PM

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I don't see any where in this thread where anyone said that they wanted the system removed from roadkills and mines. In fact, I don't see much of that even in the thread about TKing with mines.

Me, I just think that by forgiving the person that should make it so nothing negative happens to him.

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