Karkand - Am I the only one who hates this map?

[Garabaldi]

So, am I?

I just can't stand this map, I would take Mashtuur or Sharqi over it any day!

[menace-uk-]

Re: Karkand - Am I the only one who hates this map?

I prefer sharqi to karkand but i love karkand as well

[-(PK)-DarkIllusion]

Re: Karkand - Am I the only one who hates this map?

karkand is an ugly map... but its preety fun tough...

[Ubermensch]

Re: Karkand - Am I the only one who hates this map?

karkand would be ALOT better if the MEC had an APC to fight with aswell.

sharqi is my favorite above all of em aswell.

[Legli]

Re: Karkand - Am I the only one who hates this map?

I dont hate it but I do find that since it is such a favourite many people know it like the back of their hand which makes it incredibly difficult for all. I love Sharqi, even just the setting of that place is perfect and Mashtuur is great fun as well. All good grunting levels.

[The Soup Nazi]

Re: Karkand - Am I the only one who hates this map?

Karkand never grew on me, really. it's always the same tactics. as USMC, you try to weasel your way around the side of the action to take the back-bases while the rest of your team gets raped on the front lines. as MEC, your job is to ensure that each CP has at least one or two troops defending them. yeah, it can be fun at times, but it's the same game over and over...

Sharqi, on the other hand, plays similarly (this time with USMC guarding the bases at the start) and MEC trying to bust through the defenses. but the setting is much more friendly if you are trying to move quickly without being seen. i normally play Sharqi or Mashtuur if i'm in the mood to be a ground-pounder.

otherwise, i normally play Gulf of Oman or Kubra Dam.

[rombaft]

Re: Karkand - Am I the only one who hates this map?

you are probgably not the only one but you are a rare species, 99% of the people like the map, I even like it very much.

- graphics are just great, it realy gives you the feel of a cite in the midle east, I can tell you this because I have been in several midle east city's and karkand reminds me of those.
- there are no choppers or planes, more ground fighting and ingantry based fighting.
- it's actualy prety good balanced, the MEC has the same chance to win as the USMC

BUT
there is abuse of artilery
abuse with nades in start of rounds
and offcourse armor whores, but I admit, on karkand I am one to sometimes

[Thirdeyez]

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I liek karkland..like.
I used to love it, excellent place to get ranks do the ability to score obsene ammounts of points is you resonably skilled.
THO..the big dislikes..
Its repetitive...i can some up a karkland round in 1 paragraph..

USMC rushes fence, MEC does same...Noob toobers go crazy and TK everyone, Grenade spammers do the same....here come the tanks from the USMC side. They lay a few peopel out and keep moving, all the while some sneaky guys are goign to the back to get the back MEC bases. MEC point whores dont care they want the big points form the CQC at the fence. If the MEC is smart they have there tank, or no one cares about back defense and USMC Steals tank. No matter were you turn a noob toober kills you. WHen you blow up a Tank/APC the guy respawns next to it and comes at you again (this goes for most maps but its worse on Karkland do to CQC, meaning you face the tank/APC seconds later since map is small) So then 90% of the time it may come down to USMC fighting the MEC forces at the broken bridge..snipers wet dream. Basically the round comes down to who wants to win and who wants to be involved in massive point whoring and say screw the flags.

[Reasa]

Re: Karkand - Am I the only one who hates this map?

Karkand needs Civilian vehicels.

Just that would add a whole new dimention to the map.

[MASH=potato]

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Karkand is one of my personal fave's so much fighting all the time never get bored. I found a site with some nice hiding places for karkand and other maps
why not take a look I have a thread about it on our clan forum come and take a look we are recruiting all the time

MASH clan site

:) :) :) :) :) happy hunting soldiers:)

[o0|REDRUM|0o]

Re: Karkand - Am I the only one who hates this map?

I like it but thirdeye pretty much summed it right up there. Actually thats about every single round i have played on Karkland to the letter.

[r0uJe]

Re: Karkand - Am I the only one who hates this map?

when you play a 24/7 karkand server, you have to realize MOST players there don't play to win. MOST. majority are there to pad stats (either by armor whoring, medic whoring, c4 whoring, etc.) that's why you RARELY see USMC try to cap the back MEC flags. sure, sometimes it happens but 80% of the time, the USMC players will fight for that first MEC flag ('cos that's where ALL the action is)...

[kamenjar]

Re: Karkand - Am I the only one who hates this map?

I just started hating it, as I realized that 64 player maps slow my machine to the degree where it's hindering my play, and karkand is only good on a 64 or on a 16 player map. On the 64, of them, vehicles have it too well. There's just never a relaxing time where you can move about without that APC blowing you to pieces as you sneak around the corner to check the situation after you spawn. On Wake, for example, vehicles play a an interesting role and on Karkand they are just stat-whoring tools. No chopper to single shot them so the only thing to fear is that sneaky spec-ops.
The 16 player map is loads of fun, but for the USMC because MEC is in a serious disadvantage where they have to constantly move around to make sure at least one of the bases is up.

To make Karkand better, I would make both end bases uncappable and allow for only 1 tank per side, or place more TOWs.

[SpeedyGonzales]

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So, am I?

I just can't stand this map, I would take Mashtuur or Sharqi over it any day!

I got bored with it quickly.. and now adays its noob tube city.

the other city maps are better, but i prefer open maps, like dragon valley

[Pilioka]

Re: Karkand - Am I the only one who hates this map?

It's a fun map since it is pretty much infantry only. I do like Sharqi though but sometimes it's not fast enough. But sometime it's really awesome. Mashtuur is also decent. I want more city maps.

as USMC, you try to weasel your way around the side of the action to take the back-bases while the rest of your team gets raped on the front lines.

I never run to a back flag as USMC. I always cap the south flag first. Then I move north. If MEC wants to be sissies and cap flags behind me they can. I will just keep going north, the way the map was made, until I reach the bridge or their main.

Anyone who skips that south flag as USMC needs to leave that server. Unless you are gonna go ninja and blow up their assets there is no reason to.