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  • xXMMMSXx

    #31
    Re: Know why Dice put Wake Island in patch!

    Originally posted by ovhermit
    because apcs would ream that level. getting out to arty island, and then oto the carrier. they did smart with only the tanks. maybe the linebacker would be nice.
    Exactly.

    A linebacker or maybe two would have been nice.

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    • Annihilator

      #32
      Re: Know why Dice put Wake Island in patch!

      Originally posted by Super Six Three
      I did this for 3 days,people are starting to like MECs better trhan chinise and EA was like "We need to make 'em play more chinise too" and they made up the Wake Island along with the patch

      Point is: EA found out that MECs are better than chinise so they made Wake Island to make it popular
      thats not tru
      they put Japanise there because thats where they faught in ww2 and Japanise are closer to Wake.
      Wake is a real Island in real life.

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      • Vasquez

        #33
        Re: Know why Dice put Wake Island in patch!

        Originally posted by Annihilator
        thats not tru
        they put chinise there because thats where they faught in ww2 and chinise are closer to Wake.
        Wake is a real Island in real life.
        Wrong. The Chinese were allies during World War II. It was the Japanese that had a garrison on Wake Island.

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        • Real_2St0n3d

          #34
          Re: Know why Dice put Wake Island in patch!

          Originally posted by [WOLF]bbob
          lol.. they put in wake coz they didnt feel like thinking up a new map, they're aint givin us nothing new we arent paying for..
          Aye.. and the rehash is not better then the original, either.. Buildings which used to be open are now solid blocks, .88 Flak cannons got replaced with the 'allmighty' stinger (sarcasm alert), PLA's artillery is easily reachable while it takes some fancy tricks reaching US arty, and the idea of taking over enemy artillery sux bollocks and leads to bugs like artillery staying USMC no matter who owns the airport, etc. , etc., etc.

          I have to admit I've never been a big fan of island maps, the people who love it, so much the better, then at least someone does, it's just not for me as it only gets me thinking how much better the map used to be with 1942 ordnance

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          • MFbone

            #35
            Re: Know why Dice put Wake Island in patch!

            Wake Island is why I bought the game. It was my favorite map in BF1942 and was addtionally the original demo map. Anyone remember playing the demo on dial-up? haha

            Wake Island History:

            In January 1941, the United States Navy constructed a military base on the atoll. On August 19, the first permanent military garrison, elements of the 1st Marine Defense Battalion, totaling 449 officers and men, were stationed on the island, commanded by Major James P.S. Devereux. Others on the island were 68 U.S. Naval personnel and about 1,221 civilian workers.

            On December 8, two days after the attack on Pearl Harbor, 16 Japanese medium bombers flown from bases on the Marshall Islands attacked Wake Island, destroying eight of the twelve F4F Wildcat fighter aircraft belonging to Marine Corps fighter squadron VMF-211 on the ground. All of the Marine garrison's defensive emplacements were left intact by the raid, which primarily targeted the Naval aircraft.

            Early on the morning of December 11, the garrison, with the support of the four remaining Wildcats, repulsed the first Japanese landing attempt by the South Seas Force, which included the light cruisers Yubari, Tenryu, and Tatsuta; the destroyers Yayoi, Mutski, Kisaragi, Hayate, Oite, and Asanagi; two destroyer transports (the P-32 and P-33), and two troop transport ships containing 450 Japanese marines. The U.S. Marines fired at the invasion fleet with their six 5-inch coastal artillery guns, sinking the Hayate and damaging most of the other ships. The four Wildcats also succeeded in sinking another destroyer, the Kisaragi. Hayate was the first Japanese naval ship sunk during World War II. The Japanese force withdrew before landing. This was the first Japanese defeat of the war. After the defeat, when asked if he needed anything, the US commander said "Send more Japs".

            But the continuing siege and frequent Japanese air attacks on the Wake garrison continued, without resupply for the Americans. The initial resistance offered by the garrison prompted the Japanese Navy to detach two aircraft carriers (Soryu and Hiryu) from the force which attacked Pearl Harbor to support the second landing attempt. The US attempted an unsuccessful relief attempt based around the fleet carriers Saratoga and Lexington plus escorts. The carrier forces did not spot each other so no naval battle took place.

            The second Japanese invasion force, on December 23, composed most of the same ships from the first attempt with some new additions, plus 1,500 Japanese marines. The landings begain at 02:35 hours where, after a prelimiary bombardment, the destroyer transports P-32 and P-33 were beached and burned in their attempts to land the invasion force. After a full night and morning of fighting, the Wake garrison surrendered to the Japanese by mid-afternoon.

            The U.S. Marines lost only 49 killed during the entire 15-day siege while three U.S. Navy personnel and at least 70 civilians were killed. The Japanese losses were recorded at between 700 to 900 killed with at least 1,000 more wounded, in addition to the two destroyers lost in the first invasion attempt, as well as at least 20 land-based and carrier aircraft. The Japanese captured all of men remaining on the island, of whom the majority were civilian contractors employed with Morrison-Knudsen Company).

            Captain Henry T. Elrod, one of the pilots from VMF-211, was awarded the United States Medal of Honor posthumously for his action on the Island during the Japanese landings on the 23rd for shooting down two Japanese Zero fighters. A special military decoration, the Wake Island Device was also created to honor those who had fought in the defense of the island.

            On February 24, 1942, USS Enterprise attacked the Japanese garrison on Wake Island. The United States forces bombed the island from 1942 until Japan's surrender in 1945. On July 8, 1943, B-24 Liberators in transit from Midway Island bombed the Japanese garrison on Wake Island. George H. W. Bush also conducted his first mission as an aviator over Wake Island. Afterwards, Wake was occasionally raided, but never attacked en masse.

            On October 5, 1943, carrier planes from USS Yorktown conducted an extremely successful raid. Two days later, fearing an imminent invasion, Rear Admiral Shigematsu Sakaibara ordered the execution of 98 captured American contract workers remaining on the island who had been doing forced labour for the Japanese. They were taken to the northern end of the island, blindfolded and machine-gunned. One of the prisoners (whose name has never been discovered) escaped the massacre, apparently returning to the site to carve the message 98 US PW 5-10-43 on a large coral rock near where the murdered Americans had been hastily buried in a mass grave. This unknown American was re-captured within a few weeks, after which Sakaibara personally beheaded him with a sword. The inscription on the rock can still be seen and is a Wake Island landmark. After the war, Sakaibara and his subordinate, Lieutenant-Commander Tachibana, were sentenced to death for this and other crimes (several Japanese officers in American custody had committed suicide over the incident, leaving written statements that incriminated Sakaibara). Tachibana's sentence was later commuted to life in prison.

            On September 4, 1945, the remaining Japanese garrison surrendered to a detachment of the United States Marine Corps. In a brief ceremony, the handover of Wake was officially conducted.

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            • DezemoDova

              #36
              Re: Know why Dice put Wake Island in patch!

              Originally posted by VeNoM:[AK]
              I think this guy has too much time on his hands...

              Also why does this guy have a opinon? He has 3000 points and 1 250 posts?
              well he likes the forums more than the game... sheesh -- oh thats right and he gets "cyberbullied" too much in the game so hence.....

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              • {sr}MajorMishap

                #37
                Re: Know why Dice put Wake Island in patch!

                um yeah

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                • JonnyMacFred102
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                  • Aug 2005
                  • 1995

                  #38
                  Re: Know why Dice put Wake Island in patch!

                  Originally posted by DezemoDova
                  well he likes the forums more than the game... sheesh -- oh thats right and he gets "cyberbullied" too much in the game so hence.....
                  He is only 10 and has nothing else to do. Most of us have at least high school or college to deal with so we can't spend a lot of time on the forums.

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                  • EEzEY

                    #39
                    Re: Know why Dice put Wake Island in patch!

                    Originally posted by HYP3R
                    I beg to difer. I love this map. Maybe its just the tropical feel.. Its still fun to me. Anyone else still like this map?
                    its not bad,but its the same old story.we need original maps

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                    • ice252

                      #40
                      Re: Know why Dice put Wake Island in patch!

                      Originally posted by ptegan
                      Sorry, I didn't catch that. What did you say?
                      Wasn't Wake Island created by Gamespy as a custom map then EA Games just decided to make it a ranked map.

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                      • DoubleVee

                        #41
                        Re: Know why Dice put Wake Island in patch!

                        Originally posted by bam23
                        No, MEC has Karkand. China maps are too wide and open.
                        That's because in RL, MEC is usually urban combat

                        and China is not

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                        • The Question

                          #42
                          Re: Know why Dice put Wake Island in patch!

                          Originally posted by Super Six Three
                          I did this for 3 days,people are starting to like MECs better trhan chinise and EA was like "We need to make 'em play more chinise too" and they made up the Wake Island along with the patch

                          Point is: EA found out that MECs are better than chinise so they made Wake Island to make it popular
                          Now thats a good Question.

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                          • noobeffect

                            #43
                            Re: Know why Dice put Wake Island in patch!

                            Originally posted by Annihilator
                            thats not tru
                            they put chinise there because thats where they faught in ww2 and chinise are closer to Wake.
                            Wake is a real Island in real life.
                            OMG LOL.

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                            • DezemoDova

                              #44
                              Re: Know why Dice put Wake Island in patch!

                              Originally posted by SuperTyphoon
                              He is only 10 and has nothing else to do. Most of us have at least high school or college to deal with so we can't spend a lot of time on the forums.
                              man i wish i was still in college ... sob... sob...

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                              • zacman13245

                                #45
                                Re: Know why Dice put Wake Island in patch!

                                Originally posted by VeNoM:[AK]
                                I think this guy has too much time on his hands...

                                Also why does this guy have a opinon? He has 3000 points and 1 250 posts?
                                amen to that... you should need a certain amount of points until you can make opinionated statements. it should be a totalbf2 law.

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