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  • wbcninjaofmist

    #1

    How many of you really think like this:

    I have noticed many forum members on different bf2 forums that seem to have the same opinion as to why the rank requirements were changed:
    Speaking of the lowered rank requirements
    Originally posted by Angerf1st_NL
    They made it this way so people dont have to play for months to get that next unlock, if ur a pro gamer and spend hours a day playing BF2 this might seem a bit retarded but if u got an actual job and got a family to take care of it's a much welcome extra to have a weapon or two unlocked...

    It's just more balanced, think about it
    Before you answer please allow me to try to explain this from a point of view you may not have implemented to approached this matter.

    Example: What do you do?
    You develop a video game that is a litteral "cash cow". And it has been released a few months prior to today. You have over 1 million purchasers of your software and counting. Importantly this software is targeted toward the teenage , male gamer. ( The teenage gamer typically being an individual who probably is a student who does not hold a job or has very limited funds. He may rely on "mommy" or "daddy" for money.) For the sake of time I will clearly explain my question.....You have developed an expansion for your current software that has been doing quite well in the marketplace. The expansion for your software is due to release in about 1 month's time. You realize the target audience "teenage boys" that has purchased your software is quite content with what they have. The majority of all the purchasers of this software have not yet reached or achieved many of the levels or special items that are implemented in the game. Being that they still have much to achieve in the product they now own and it will probably be difficult for them to purchase the expansion ( for reasons listed ) You realize something needs to be done in order to sustain the prediction of financial succes due to the success of the previous release. Although the expansion may potentially spark their interest and appeal to their curiosity you realize that they still have quite an amount of accomplishments to work towards in their current purchase. The target audience generally having limited monetary means to attain this expansion for your software causes you to observe that there are far too many of these purchasers content with the content available and that they have much yet to achieve. realizing that some of these individuals have not spent much time on the software and probably will have little motivation (other than curiosity / new things) to purchase the expansion.
    what do you do?

    A. You decide to make all the levels in the game easier to achieve...Your thought process "I mean really noone should have to spend too much time playing my software.. everyone should be able to beat my software without having to put too much time into it... it is not fair to them (those who have little time to play the software) that some people have beaten large portions of the game and can spend more time on it."

    B. You decide to make all the levels in the game easier to achieve... Your thought process " The target audience already has limited funds to purchase my expansion product. The target audience is not at all bored with the already released product. The target audience may take quite some time achieving the levels and accomplishments the released softwre has to offer. If I lower the game requirements the target audience will "have seen all there is to see here" and will be more apt to purchase the expansion due 1 month from now.


    On a side note : When EA was asked during an interview by IGN about such high rank requirements for medals , unlocks etc the response was that the values were high but clearly attainable and were calculated based on bf1942 play times respectively.
  • FordMustang

    #2
    Re: How many of you really think like this:

    i agree with the topic your disagreeing with

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    • wbcninjaofmist

      #3
      Re: How many of you really think like this:

      Originally posted by FordMustang
      i agree with the topic your disagreeing with
      I respect that thank you for your comment but what do you choose A. or B. ?

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      • hollowpoint367

        #4
        Re: How many of you really think like this:

        I'd say they're going for both A and B. They could have lowered it so it didn't require AS MUCH time, but now it's to the point where it hints at the idea they want to get people to get sick of BF2 and get all hyped about Special Forces (I hope to god that release isn't nearly as crazy as they were about BF2, lol).

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        • jimbob

          #5
          Re: How many of you really think like this:

          its more towards A but certainly not in your words lol...

          seriously why are people still bitching about this....

          waste of precious thread space

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          • a1pointguard

            #6
            Re: How many of you really think like this:

            A. But why the huge essay? :laugh:

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            • jdrou
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              • Jul 2006
              • 1860

              #7
              Re: How many of you really think like this:

              I don't really care why they did it; I'm just glad they did. I have just over 5000 points right now and I doubt very much I'll ever reach 20,000 since I'll be playing mods by then. With the old system that would mean I would never have more than two unlocks but now I have 4 to play with. The unlocks are not my goal; they're just a way to increase the fun of playing the game.

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              • A$$a$$ination

                #8
                Re: How many of you really think like this:

                Good point^

                Now to the topic. I believe that this could very well be true. You are dealing with a global multi national business and to think things like this don't go through the heads of the exec's and managers is naive i think. At the end of the day the exec's are under so much pressure from the stakeholders to not only maintain profit but increase it. This adds a growing pressure to make cash now rather than wait a bit and look more at the long term.

                This stems from organizations having to report their financial dealings every 3 months to the stockmarket and stakeholders. This is why you will find smaller companies developing the attitude that we'll release it when it's done whereas EA will try rush the product so they can start making revenue on it now then fix it up more.

                enough business talk now, that's my two cents anyway

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                • wbcninjaofmist

                  #9
                  Re: How many of you really think like this:

                  thanks for replying people good comments but Im asking "what would YOU do"? YOU produced a video game. Not EA or DICE


                  A. You decide to make all the levels in your game easier to achieve...Your thought process "I mean really noone should have to spend too much time playing my software.. everyone should be able to beat my software without having to put too much time into it... it is not fair to them (those who have little time to play the software) that some people have beaten large portions of the game and can spend more time on it."

                  B. You decide to make all the levels in your game
                  easier to achieve... Your thought process " The target audience already has limited funds to purchase my expansion product. The target audience is not at all bored with the already released product. The target audience may take quite some time achieving the levels and accomplishments the released softwre has to offer. If I lower the game requirements the target audience will "have seen all there is to see here" and will be more apt to purchase the expansion due 1 month from now.


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                  • Focker

                    #10
                    Re: How many of you really think like this:

                    Considering this is an action game and not some pay to play MMORPG I think they did the smart thing. Anyone who thinks the ranks didn't take way too much time needs their head examined. Now it is more reasonable and plus the point farming was happening only because of how rediculous the ranks were before the change.

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                    • big_sammy_b

                      #11
                      Re: How many of you really think like this:

                      Actaully thats a load of rubbish theres no way BF2 is aimed at teenaged gamers who rely on 'mummy and daddy' for funds simply because of the massive system requirements of the game.

                      Very few teenagers relying on mummy and daddy are going to be able to afford the kind of hardware too run BF2 well.

                      I'd say BF2 is aimed at people in there early too mid twenties who have a job and can asfford decent hardware and above all are enthusiasts who don't mind increasing there hardware to run a game they like.

                      So the reason the ranking system was changed in my view is the same reason as the thread starter quoted. Its because people who can afford too play BF2 for the most part have jobs or they wouldn't have the kit too run it. And so they don't have time too play BF2 24/7, so DICE made the ranking system easier for them as they are there target audience.

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                      • jimbob

                        #12
                        Re: How many of you really think like this:

                        Originally posted by wbcninjaofmist
                        thanks for replying people good comments but Im asking "what would YOU do"? YOU produced a video game. Not EA or DICE


                        A. You decide to make all the levels in your game easier to achieve...Your thought process "I mean really noone should have to spend too much time playing my software.. everyone should be able to beat my software without having to put too much time into it... it is not fair to them (those who have little time to play the software) that some people have beaten large portions of the game and can spend more time on it."

                        B. You decide to make all the levels in your game
                        easier to achieve... Your thought process " The target audience already has limited funds to purchase my expansion product. The target audience is not at all bored with the already released product. The target audience may take quite some time achieving the levels and accomplishments the released softwre has to offer. If I lower the game requirements the target audience will "have seen all there is to see here" and will be more apt to purchase the expansion due 1 month from now.



                        look dude your lucky you got people at all answering this thread dont get picky.... and if that is how this post is then your initial post makes NO SENSE... rather than telling us our thought processes a better question would have been - if you were the bf2 developer what would motivate you to change the rank system?

                        seeing as i dont quite agree with either of your options your question is fundamentally flawed lol

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                        • big_sammy_b

                          #13
                          Re: How many of you really think like this:

                          his original post is fuindamentally flawed because he makes assumptions based on poor logic.

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                          • wbcninjaofmist

                            #14
                            Re: How many of you really think like this:

                            Originally posted by big_sammy_b
                            Actaully thats a load of rubbish theres no way BF2 is aimed at teenaged gamers who rely on 'mummy and daddy' for funds simply because of the massive system requirements of the game.

                            Very few teenagers relying on mummy and daddy are going to be able to afford the kind of hardware too run BF2 well.

                            I'd say BF2 is aimed at people in there early too mid twenties who have a job and can asfford decent hardware and above all are enthusiasts who don't mind increasing there hardware to run a game they like.

                            So the reason the ranking system was changed in my view is the same reason as the thread starter quoted. Its because people who can afford too play BF2 for the most part have jobs or they wouldn't have the kit too run it. And so they don't have time too play BF2 24/7, so DICE made the ranking system easier for them as they are there target audience.
                            The game is rated T for teen
                            Also the system requirements arent high at all

                            Windows XP (32-bit) with Admin rights
                            1.7 GHz Intel Celeron D / Pentium 4 or AMD Athlon XP/ Sempron or greater
                            512 MB of RAM or more
                            8x or faster CD/DVD drive
                            2.3 GB free hard drive space or more
                            DirectX 9.0c compatible (see video)
                            DirectX 9.0c compatible

                            Its you who has the option of playing it how it was meant to be played
                            "the recommended sys reqs"

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                            • wbcninjaofmist

                              #15
                              Re: How many of you really think like this:

                              Originally posted by big_sammy_b
                              his original post is fuindamentally flawed because he makes assumptions based on poor logic.
                              I made no assumptions , actually only a couple people where intelligent enough to answer a, b, or both. I asked how many of u think like this:
                              never gave my opinion although You very well assumed it.

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