Ping time a totally useless statistic

[kamenjar]

I just came to this conclusion because of the following:
- I've only seen the case where I get "hit" by a tank shell SECONDS after I already made it around that corner even though my ping is 50ms
- People experiencing 1+ second "C4" lag. I experience it mostly on 64 karkand.
- On 64-Karkand, ended up in a fight where me and the oponent were circle-strafing each other and I've seen him shoot actually behind me, which makes me think that the actual lag was much greater.
- I enjoy playing and perform MUCH better on servers of up to 32 players total. There seems to be never the case of those weird scenarios where "they couldn't have kiled me in 1 shot from that much distance right after they noticed me and i've been shooting at them for past 5 seconds with a better weapon"

They might have implemented the ping response with a high priority and the actual server "serving" events could be way behind.

What's your thought on this?

[imported_Psycho]

Re: Ping time a totally useless statistic

It due to the hardware in the server not being the required amount for the game playing on the server, it isn't to do with your ping as i lag on 64 player servers with a ping of 12.

[imported_Gergnoodle]

Re: Ping time a totally useless statistic

ping is very random
you may have a ping of 50 at one point but may spike to 200-300 the next not to mention the potential for packet loss
such is the nature of the internet not to mention the fact that in a 64 man server there is a hella lot more infromation to be processed on all ends of a server and client

my motto is take bad with good sometimes it works in your favor other times you get short end of stick

[DrunkenPirate]

Re: Ping time a totally useless statistic

I have had times when I have made it round a corner only to die a whole 2-3 seconds later too.

[nikolaf7]

Re: Ping time a totally useless statistic

Jesi to na bih igrao?

[Jedi_Joe]

Re: Ping time a totally useless statistic

Jesi to na bih igrao?

wa???

[moocifer]

Re: Ping time a totally useless statistic

when I refresh the servers, all the pings are artificially high :| I have to click on them to get it to show the real ping. anyone know how to fix this or what causes it? it's been the same way since I installed the 1.02 patch

[kamenjar]

Re: Ping time a totally useless statistic

Jesi to na bih igrao?

Ne, americki server u Americi.

To Others:

Never seen anything more than 200ms. And 200ms is far more than dying after making that corner 1-2 seconds after. That's my point.

I'm actually trying to say that for servers that are CPU overloaded ping times are completely useless. Ping will give you network latency but not "processing" latency. The time it takes for the bullet to hit something and server to register it will be much more than it takes for the packet to travel back and fourth.

In the "Good ol''" times packet travel was the biggest factor to "lag". With these "modern" games, CPU time seems to matter most and there is no way for you to see if you are actually lagging.

In the old version, it wouldn't be as bad because you would see yourself "twitching" and you know you should drop the server and put it on the sh1tlist.

Talking about that.. The ZBoard ranked servers were the worst at it form what I've known. Even if I ever cared to buy that stupid keyboard I wouldn't because they're idiots.

[imported_Fig]

Re: Ping time a totally useless statistic

Ya, ping does seem to not affect how laggily you play, maybe it has something to do with the people who are shooting at you's ping.

also, the ping in the server browser (well, hell the whole server browser) is crap.

1/3 of the servers come up as 0, and not a single server ive ever entered have i had the ping the server says it has. always off by like 40 or 50.

[kamenjar]

Re: Ping time a totally useless statistic

Ya, ping does seem to not affect how laggily you play, maybe it has something to do with the people who are shooting at you's ping.

also, the ping in the server browser (well, hell the whole server browser) is crap.

1/3 of the servers come up as 0, and not a single server ive ever entered have i had the ping the server says it has. always off by like 40 or 50.

I think that ping 0 is a BF bug and those idiots never cared to fix it I guess (no clue if they did because I dont use the stupid ingame browser any more). Those seem to be most laggy for me and they proly come up as 0 because they never reply.

[imported_Gergnoodle]

Re: Ping time a totally useless statistic

Ne, americki server u Americi.

To Others:

Talking about that.. The ZBoard ranked servers were the worst at it form what I've known. Even if I ever cared to buy that stupid keyboard I wouldn't because they're idiots.

speak for yourself i love the zboards some are great some are a little less than good but ive never had a problem on them plus they update to ea really quickly

and the zboard custom insert rocks if you haven't used one u have no right to judge their performance