Enemy Assets - team vehicle damage

[BeerStein]

I cannot tell you how annoyed I am with the 'team vehicle damage' penalties from blowing up the enemy's commander assets.

This happens over and over again when we cap the enemy home base with the stuff in it. Those items end up getting repaired later in the round, and I blow them up again. I get penalized each time after that when I blow up their commander stuff. Even after they take that base back over.

Yes, before someone asks - I looked at the flag on it - and it was MEC stuff.

Perfect examples - happened to me last night again - on Kubra Dam and Operation Clean Sweep.

My guess as to how it happens:

I blow up the assets before we take over the Airfield (Kubra Dam example), then we cap the airfield. Those items get repaired or rebuilt as we own the airfield - tagging them as US. For what reason I have no idea.

I blow them up again - team damage. They take that base back and repair again. I blow them up after they repaired them when they owned the base. They are still tagged somehow to US and I get team damage still. They are tainted the rest of the round, no matter how many times I blow them up.

[Chenzo]

Re: Enemy Assets - team vehicle damage

wait... it doesn't matter what the flag is... the commander assets are in the same spot through out the round. Even if the base is controled by the other side.

[BeerStein]

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Yeah - one would think, but that is not the case. It was not a one time bug, and I have seen it repeat on more than one map.

I have learned my lesson and I do not play spec ops (or at least blow up enemy commander stuff) on maps that do not have a permanent enemy spawn.

[Chenzo]

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Yeah - one would think, but that is not the case. It was not a one time bug, and I have seen it repeat on more than one map.

I have learned my lesson and I do not play spec ops (or at least blow up enemy commander stuff) on maps that do not have a permanent enemy spawn.

wait... hang on. The commander's assets NEVER MOVE. They're always in the same spot. So if you're US and you see a MEC flag, it's possible they took your "main base" and you're blowing up your own assets.

[jdrou]

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wait... hang on. The commander's assets NEVER MOVE. They're always in the same spot. So if you're US and you see a MEC flag, it's possible they took your "main base" and you're blowing up your own assets.

No, they didn't move, they changed ownership. I've seen the same thing with the US base on Sharqi; MEC captures the base and destroys the assets and when they respawn they are considered MEC-owned if they are attacked again.

[BeerStein]

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wait... hang on. The commander's assets NEVER MOVE. They're always in the same spot. So if you're US and you see a MEC flag, it's possible they took your "main base" and you're blowing up your own assets.

I know they never move. Not possible that they took over my main base on the 2 maps I mentioned. The US has perma bases on those 2 maps.

I have not tried this on other maps where US does not have perma spawn (when playing US).

Also - if they were 'our assets' - my commander would lose UAV, arty, and radar - which is not the case.

I have even been a commander to make sure this did not happen.

One time we even had an active UAV scan going when I blew the MEC UAV trailer that gave me team vehicle damage - and UAV never stopped - proof it was not ours.

[BeerStein]

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No, they didn't move, they changed ownership. I've seen the same thing with the US base on Sharqi; MEC captures the base and destroys the assets and when they respawn they are considered MEC-owned if they are attacked again.

Yes - that one is a good example too on Sharqi. Saw that before as well. When I played MEC. We took the tv station and I blew up the assets there with the american flag on them - got team damage.

[imported_xRandoMx]

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patch 1.03. When they said a lot of changes, they didn't say the were new bugs.

[BeerStein]

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I had seen this before the patch, but I did not play spec ops as much pre patch (mainly because I did not have the unlock). The only map I noticed it on was kubra dam. I thought I was getting team vehicle damage from the explosion hurting the bh that spawns right next to the uav trailer. i was proved wrong when i killed the radar and got the same thing.

i chalked it up to the red/blue player glitch - thinking maybe i was the one glitched and never really thought any more of it....until now.

[Chenzo]

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Yes - that one is a good example too on Sharqi. Saw that before as well. When I played MEC. We took the tv station and I blew up the assets there with the american flag on them - got team damage.

WHAT!? Are you sure? What happens if you own BOTH bases? Do you get double sets of Arty and UAVs and shiz?

I'll have to see this to believe it.

[LinteLoco]

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WHAT!? Are you sure? What happens if you own BOTH bases? Do you get double sets of Arty and UAVs and shiz?

I'll have to see this to believe it.

Yes
On Wake island, we controlled the china base long enough to gain controll of the artillery..........A 6 gun Artillery shot is a sight to behold

[wbcninjaofmist]

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No wonder why i was getting team vehicle damage.... actually ****ed me off because it costed me a gold medal and i had to settle for silver. I know what ill do from now on.... Ill check the flag on each asset before i c4 it.

[timsgameonline]

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ype, I got tvd when I blew com assets on the airfield at Wake Island. Happens on some maps and not others. Anyone know which?

[BeerStein]

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Yes
On Wake island, we controlled the china base long enough to gain controll of the artillery..........A 6 gun Artillery shot is a sight to behold

So if this is true...why does the enemy not lose control of the assets? The enemy commander still has full function of those assets.

I could see if it was planned that the other team could take control when they own the base. Then when you take back that control point - you have to blow them up and take them back over...but this does not hold true.

[Moke]

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Have never seen it


EXCEPT for Wake island... the China Arty will belong to the US if its captured, destroyed and repaired