Wake Island unbalance

[Big_red_Cube]

I have noticed that the Chinese win this battle over 90% of the time

it is far to easy to keep the yanks impact on the main island to a minimum

have you experienced the same?

[CS-Evolution]

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We just had a thread the other day that complained the map was too USMC sided. Therefor, it must be balanced. :)

[DLWebmaestro96]

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I have noticed that I always play this map as USMC and am currently 10-2.

[ElekTriC]

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the map is balanced enough ... if you look at bf42 the us had the island and axis needed to get the island here its just the other way around so its balanced to me

[dnoe91]

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I also felt that the Chinese had an unfair advantage on this map until last night. I think the trick for the USMC to win on this map is the ability to cap a position quickly from the beginning of the match. To do this USMC will need a good commander and good squad leaders. It needs to be communicated which flags have no opfor near them. It also helps if you start at one flag and work your way around. It is hard to win if you have to fight a two front battle.

[Seal]

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The team that teamworks the most almost always wins.

[evilzucchini]

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It is all about the airfield. If China can keep it and keep the USMC from capturing most of the other points, I see China winning. If the USMC gets that point early enough and holds it for long enough, China will get whupped.

Seriously everytime I play this game it seems to me that whoever controls the airfield the longest wins.

[Mr. ADHD]

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I would disagree with this... if the teams are even, a 2 front battle is no easier nor harder for either side. USMC has no choice but to be aggressive and flexible. The only way they can acheive both is to be well organized. The other night my team, usmc, couldn't get on the island for the first 2 games. In the last game we made it on the closest tip, only to be pounded and pounded by the defense.

I think the map is too evenly balanced...that is if one team has an ever so slight advantage, slaughter is most likely the end result.

Oh the humanity...

I also felt that the Chinese had an unfair advantage on this map until last night. I think the trick for the USMC to win on this map is the ability to cap a position quickly from the beginning of the match. To do this USMC will need a good commander and good squad leaders. It needs to be communicated which flags have no opfor near them. It also helps if you start at one flag and work your way around. It is hard to win if you have to fight a two front battle.

[imported_Underpant]

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Yeah, I'd say 99% of the time, whoever has the airfield for the majority of the time wins. Not only because it has all the air assets ect, but it's central, and spawns like 2 tanks.

Airfield=insta-win. Sometimes it is quite impossible for US to win. IF MEC gets people in the air quick, and tanks on each edge of the island (to take out every boat VERY ANNOYING). A blackhawk is very slow, and everyone on china know's it's coming. Jets only hold one person. The US cobra is preocupied with even trying to get off the ground. Trust me, I've played this map for like 20 hours already, and I am typically a pilot, I've had 50-3 games on china bombing the carrier, and 50-3 games as US after the US caps the airfield. 2 of those deaths were probably from being TKed to get a jet >_<

All in all, I guess it's balanced, but I've won like 11 times out of like 14 games played as china, and Lost a ton as US.

[Private_Adam]

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Yeah when i am the usmc i cant even get to land because i always get destoyed by the dam tank

[Mr. ADHD]

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Ah but it's more fun to be on USMC. I love the challenge.

I managed to sneak a boat and 2 other squad members to the other side and my commander was slow with the UAV...not to mention others in my squad wouldn't spawn on me. Anyway.

Crappy commander for USMC=guaranteed loss. I haven't tried commanding yet, but I'm looking forward to it.

[imported_Rafterman]

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Last time I played USMC our commander and TWO squad leaders were both snipers and just wanted to sit on the artillery island and snipe. So yeah, you need good leadership. You also need good air cover and competent heli pilots for air assault. Once you get the Chinese focused on ground defense, then your seaborne assaults can come in and take the outlying flags w/o too much problem.

As China, the key is to have good pilots to supress the carrier and move your land forces to the island's arms and just waste anything that heads your way.

It's like any other map -- the good teams win.

[=HzC=Heinz]

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It is all about the airfield. If China can keep it and keep the USMC from capturing most of the other points, I see China winning. If the USMC gets that point early enough and holds it for long enough, China will get whupped.
Seriously everytime I play this game it seems to me that whoever controls the airfield the longest wins.

yeah, that is what we have found as well. gotta grab that airfield (as USMC) and hold the sucker!

[SupUnd]

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I find the map isn't unbalanced so much as one side always dominates. There's no real middle ground on that map. If the USMC get a strong hold on the island (even without getting the air field), they will normally dominate. If the PLA can keep the USMC off the island, then the USMC doesn't have a chance.

Most of the time I've played, the PLA wins. But, the reason for this is because the PLA is more organized. They guard the beaches with tanks whle the USMC attacks with 2 or 3 men at a time and don't use their air power effectively.

If the USMC is to win, they have to immediately use their air power to destroy all vehicles. Then they must make an all out assault (large numbers of men at one place) on a single flag. Once they get a stable foothold on the island, life for the PLA gets difficult.

[rombaft]

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I have played the map several times now and chinees wins or looses as much as the USMC .

If the USMC wins it goes most of the time like this,
getting behind in points, to even 50 points less then chineese team, but once USMC has captured a point on land and can spawn at land there is a big chance they win the round