Teamkills from wreckage exploding???

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  • slosh

    #1

    Teamkills from wreckage exploding???

    I thought the way that teammates took damage from exploding vehicles was changed or fixed.

    Last night I blew up an APC and a teammate (freakin noob) happened to run by as the wreckage exploded and I got a teamkill. And no it wasn't at the same time as I hit the vehicle with the SRAW it was like 5 seconds later.
  • CS-Evolution

    #2
    Re: Teamkills from wreckage exploding???

    If the vehicle was unoccupied, you'd probably get a TK.

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    • KFCazure

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      Re: Teamkills from wreckage exploding???

      Last night, after being punished for yet another claymore teamkill, I chased the loser down and he was in a stationary AA platform. So I hopped into a jeep and rammed it into him. Of course it didn't kill him, but the jeep caught on fire and blew up, killed us both, and he got the teamkill (and a punish, of course*). I guess that stationary AA > jeep, so he got the teamkill??

      * I never punish unless I get teamkilled on purpose (usually for my M95) or some loser punishes me after running into my claymore.

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      • rombaft

        #4
        Re: Teamkills from wreckage exploding???

        Had the same thing, it still counts as a TK, even if there was an enemy in it, you blew him up, when wreck explodes and teammate in near you got a TK , real sad.

        They said indeed they took this out, but they said lots of things in there readme file of 1.03, they also said that tickets would no longer be on map size but on amount of players, today was playing on a ranked server 16 players on a 64 player map, with ticket count of 64 players ???? our commander got 220 points or something (110*2)

        they said they would clear some bugs, but they actualy ment putting in some extra bugs

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        • Teaves

          #5
          Re: Teamkills from wreckage exploding???

          Actually i'm now 99% sure that it is fixed, but not in the way you ASSUME it was going to be fixed. You still get a TK out of it but if it was because of a wreakage explosion then you DON'T get the option to punish for that anymore. Bassically the same thing as the commander when he Arties his team, still a TK but no punish option.

          I thought everyone was being nice the few times it happened to me but then someone rammed our BH with a plane and the pilot got 2 TK's out if it BUT neither of us had the "PGUP for punish" dialogue come up. This was confirmed via teamspeak as all three of us are RL friends.

          If anyone can PROVE this to be wrong (screenshot of the TK's and the punish box up) then i will investigate more but i am convinced this is correct but its hard to be 100% without other people experiences. I have NEVER been punished post-post when i am assigned TK's from exploding wreckage and i do still get a TK.

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          • MachineGunDave

            #6
            Re: Teamkills from wreckage exploding???

            I got 5 teamkills for bailing out of a burning helo momments before it exploded. I think it is safe to assume that the tkill problem is not fixed.

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            • Teaves

              #7
              Re: Teamkills from wreckage exploding???

              but you didnt answer my question, did you get punished?? ... can u prove it???

              IT IS FIXED UNLESS SOMEONE PROVES OTHERWISE (clear enough for the whiners? )

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              • ledbythereaper

                #8
                Re: Teamkills from wreckage exploding???

                it's ****ing annoying, wake island yesterday got my F-18 shot down, i died in the explosion and the wreckage went on the hit someone on the ground and i got a tk.. grr

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                • JonnyMacFred102
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                  • Aug 2005
                  • 1995

                  #9
                  Re: Teamkills from wreckage exploding???

                  Originally posted by Teaves
                  but you didnt answer my question, did you get punished?? ... can u prove it???

                  IT IS FIXED UNLESS SOMEONE PROVES OTHERWISE (clear enough for the whiners? )
                  Who cares if he was punished or not, it is not fixed. People just proved it now, he still got the TK. What are you smoking?

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                  • Teaves

                    #10
                    Re: Teamkills from wreckage exploding???

                    Firstly i dont smoke, secondly why do i have to spell it out to all the haters *sigh* oh well..... Now listen carefully i am NOT going to repeat this

                    If you didnt get assigned TK's for exploding vehicles what to stop griefers using it as one of there tactics?? (example crash vehicles into spawns killing loads in the explosion) The way it is now the FIXED way you have to be carefull still but when accidents happen you wont get kicked from the server.

                    This is what everyone was annoyed about, especially heli pilots could be kick/banned from one jet that decided to ram him. Who cares that you still lose some points??? "oh noes i lost 10 points my life is over" (sarcasm, just in case)

                    Its exactly the same situation as the commader now, if he TK's then there is no punish option. Think before you post in the future. The truth of the matter is you people just have to have something to moan about or no-one pays attetion to you. We asked DICE to fix the way vehicles TK'd.... they DID fix it..... MOST people are happy with the fix..... lets be honest you would only be happy if the game was perfect for you and no-one else, and evenb then i'm sure you would still whine (maybe about how few people played, lol)

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                    • MachineGunDave

                      #11
                      Re: Teamkills from wreckage exploding???

                      Originally posted by Teaves
                      but you didnt answer my question, did you get punished?? ... can u prove it???

                      IT IS FIXED UNLESS SOMEONE PROVES OTHERWISE (clear enough for the whiners? )
                      Uh, 5 teamkills, I didn't even have time to cuss out the first person who punished before I got kicked from the other 4 punishing.

                      *Edit

                      And ohyeah, after the episode I will become a punish whore.

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                      • Teaves

                        #12
                        Re: Teamkills from wreckage exploding???

                        Originally posted by MachineGunDave
                        Uh, 5 teamkills, I didn't even have time to cuss out the first person who punished before I got kicked from the other 4 punishing.

                        *Edit

                        And ohyeah, after the episode I will become a punish whore.
                        Quoted for truth

                        O.K so thats one, i dont suppose you have demo or screenshots?? its not that i'm doubting you but you seem to be the ONLY person that has been punished because of an explosion sa for from over 1 hudred posts about it here in the forums. I will gladly accept that i am wrong if its proved but if i'm corrrect then this quote is going to be an interesting talking point over the next 2 days.

                        I will test this fully tonite with some m8s, machinegundave will you PLEASE do the same thing and grab some screenies when it happens again. Mine and yours seem to be acting in opposite ways so we can probably get to the bottom of it ourselves.

                        I have to admit though, i feel a bit sorry for you if you can be assigned the punishes as well. can you also tell me the EXACT version number in game (not patch number) its in the top left when you log-in.

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                        • MachineGunDave

                          #13
                          Re: Teamkills from wreckage exploding???

                          Check this thread.



                          I'll look at my version number tonight. Its most certainly the same as everyone elses. And from the thread above you can see that its not an isolated occurence.

                          Edit*

                          I don't even know how to make a demo or record a match. And I got booted before I could grab a screenshot.

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                          • Teaves

                            #14
                            Re: Teamkills from wreckage exploding???

                            Hi again, i think the most likely cause from the thread above is this post
                            One possibility is that the BH is exploding when it hits a parachute (don't laugh, parachutes are solid objects, and will kill an aircraft just like a wall or a tree).
                            as silly as it sounds this is the actually more common then you might think, you can TK with a parachute if your too close together.


                            Also all the post are from people that got the TK's but no-one is specific about the "punish" option , you still lose points (obviously) from the TK but the way it SHOULD work is no punish option. In fact the topic starter points out that no-one indeed did punish him if you read it again (he didnt know why)

                            I hope you dont mind machinegundave, but i have sent you a pm regarling this issue, i hope thats now out of line? but i hope to work out what is casuing your problems.

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                            • KHAN

                              #15
                              Re: Teamkills from wreckage exploding???

                              Originally posted by KFCazure
                              * I never punish unless I get teamkilled on purpose (usually for my M95) or some loser punishes me after running into my claymore.
                              Snipers really do my head in with that claymore, I wouldn't punish for getting killed by one but I mean they're just so frigging dumb!, they'll go on a roof of a building in one of your own spawn areas and even those they sometimes know they're going to die in 2 mins they put that claymore there and of course someone on your team is going to want to go up there.

                              Stop being wimps, you dont really need to use a claymore on most maps.

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