The wetlands Heli defense... STORY resulting in a personal BAN

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  • vjs

    #1

    The wetlands Heli defense... STORY resulting in a personal BAN

    O.K. this is a little bit of a rant but what is one suppose to do when playing with newbies or those who don't know.

    I was playing on a fairly decent server,or so I thought. Basically it was 3 rounds a map and teams switched sides which I though was pretty cool.

    Well for those who don't know the blackhawk can be one serious item in this map. Basically in the first round our team had our butts totally handed to us by a group flying the blackhawk. They guys were pretty good, obviously a fairly full chopper with a decent squad plenty of enginers I'd say.

    So I was basically trying to take them out in the first roung, AT, rockets. NO good as soon as they starting getting hit pretty bad they were out of there repairing capping a different flag.

    Fine we lose big time somethign like 140 to 0 at the end.
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    Round two we switch, nobody I mean nobody, wants to be in the blackhawk with me. I'm not the best at Heli's I can hover (not well but I'm getting better generally happy to have someone else fly). Anyways I'm flying with one maybe two guys, probably both attackers, no repairs ever.
    Enemy constanly trying to take the blackhawk base etc.
    WE loss the map again it's like people didn't learn from the last round.
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    (Here comes the BAN)

    As soon as the round starts I jump into our heli. Fly over full tilt, bail and let the chopper crash into the loaded blackhawk spinning on the ground, with about 3-4 guys in it. I made the jump but was shot on the ground pretty quick.

    Respawn, same tactic, not letting these guys in the air again. Anyways fly over they are already up, this time I crash directly into the side of them as I'm taking fire.

    Doing pretty good already have about 10 points when some people have none.

    "So some from the other team says, do that again and your gone, and starts a kick vote." Without success.

    I'm thinking... yes I did ram... that's not right, it's early in the game and our team isn't doing that bad yet. So I let go, well blackhawk starts killing us big time. try to rally people to get the BH base no go.

    I've had enough I'm not going to sit back and let these guys clean house again.

    Paint our helicopter with c4 fly over to the other blackwalk, get over them. Jump into F4 and Boom! Kill myself and 5 other guys with the C4.


    It's pretty quite then I get a connection problem, you have been banned from the sever for excessive teamkilling, admin decission. <--- what not one teamkill. I guess I was killing too many on their team.

    I'm like WTF, I was even Japenesse, I guess mowing down others on foot with a chain gun from 100 yards away, while basically being indestructable from engineers is O.K. But a tried and true WW2 kamakazi tactic isn't honourable?

    What do you guys think, some of the guys in chopper were part of a clan... I have the clan and sever IP I was playing on. I personally think it's a bunch of guys who know their stuff, that like to stats pad against newbies on their own server.

    Was I wrong for doing what I did? It was a pretty effective defense and stratagie IMHO, 1 guy basically making 5-6 guys useless.

    Now regular RAMMING I'm not fond of but hey, if its one guys against one guys. The rammer doesn't get extra points, +2 kill -2 sucide. But 1 against 4-6 I say thats a good tactic if there is no weapon which takes it out of the air. Heck a car can be used as a weapon ,kills by running people over, isn't this considers a roadkill by EA and driver points awarded.
  • AsclepiusZ

    #2
    Re: The wetlands Heli defense... STORY resulting in a personal BAN

    just some 12 yr old server admin that needs to grow up. laugh at him, remember how you were kicking his ass, then move on :)

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    • MagnusFaustus

      #3
      Re: The wetlands Heli defense... STORY resulting in a personal BAN

      They really should fix the seahawk.. Make it such that it's more difficult for somebody to just repair on the fly in such things, and for people to use it like it's SUPPOSED to be used. Ie. Squad insertion or withdrawal, not a WTFPWNBBQ minigun-death-beaming-hoverbox made out of adamantium!

      *sigh* I hate to be on the side of some of the webcomic artists/writers, but when you're in a military simulation, you're supposed to be confronted by realistic problems. I mean, in most movies, people see blackhawks get shot down by one rocket.. If they didn't explode immediately that is. but jeez.. never seen the sort before.. It takes a full-team push from the MEC, or the Chinese to lay low one group of blackhawkers. That or an extremely adept fighter or heli pilot.

      That, and while trying to keep that blackhawk out of your hair, you also have to keep the team on the regular enemies in armor and on foot. And with things the way they are now, finding a team that can multitask all these problems together is difficult in the extreme.

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      • DU_is_good_4U

        #4
        Re: The wetlands Heli defense... STORY resulting in a personal BAN

        Get over it B****!

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        • imported_Saind

          #5
          Re: The wetlands Heli defense... STORY resulting in a personal BAN

          hehe lol i always putt c4 on plains and let them fly over a seahawk jump out and blow it when you're lucky they get hit

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          • FusioN[90thSFG]

            #6
            Re: The wetlands Heli defense... STORY resulting in a personal BAN

            Originally posted by MagnusFaustus
            They really should fix the seahawk.. Make it such that it's more difficult for somebody to just repair on the fly in such things, and for people to use it like it's SUPPOSED to be used. Ie. Squad insertion or withdrawal, not a WTFPWNBBQ minigun-death-beaming-hoverbox made out of adamantium!

            *sigh* I hate to be on the side of some of the webcomic artists/writers, but when you're in a military simulation, you're supposed to be confronted by realistic problems. I mean, in most movies, people see blackhawks get shot down by one rocket.. If they didn't explode immediately that is. but jeez.. never seen the sort before.. It takes a full-team push from the MEC, or the Chinese to lay low one group of blackhawkers. That or an extremely adept fighter or heli pilot.

            That, and while trying to keep that blackhawk out of your hair, you also have to keep the team on the regular enemies in armor and on foot. And with things the way they are now, finding a team that can multitask all these problems together is difficult in the extreme.
            Not even half of that post reffered to his post....

            Anyway, they probably wanted to ban you for the ramming anyway since you were warned.... it was I guess a glitch that you were banned for tking..

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            • ELI

              #7
              Re: The wetlands Heli defense... STORY resulting in a personal BAN

              Yep, sounds like a bunch of whiney little kids that got beat at their own game and couldn't take it. "How dare you blow me up while I'm trying to exploit my own server for stats!":laugh:

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              • vjs

                #8
                Re: The wetlands Heli defense... STORY resulting in a personal BAN

                No big deal really, I'm just P.O.'ed that they ban me for something I though was a reasonable tactic. Also I liked the server with the maps and team switching etc. One game one side, one game the other then switch again.


                Actually I think close to 100% of his post is relavent. It's a good point...

                How can two guys seriously repair the seahawk fast enough mid flight to ward off damage for a (take your choice, aa, tank, chaingun, SAM).

                I think having to at least land to repair is a good move.

                Same goes for jets, and I rock at jets. But have you ever tried landing then taking off again? I can easily land, but it's near impossible to turn on the ground with the existing maps. Backing up for enough space take alot of time considering the hanger is usually in the way, Carrier no big deal, but idiots run in front or stand in the middle of the runway generally resulting in TK's.

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                • ICPO

                  #9
                  Re: The wetlands Heli defense... STORY resulting in a personal BAN

                  Thats a tacktic I use constantly when my teams getting its ass handed to it because of blackhawk whores. All blackhawk whores should have their stats reset.

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                  • vjs

                    #10
                    Re: The wetlands Heli defense... STORY resulting in a personal BAN

                    WEll looks like EA took this issue seriously, wrenches do lower repair rates inside heli's. Also a group of 6 people in a vehicle only count as person around the flag.

                    Humm, not sure how I feel about this...

                    I think everyone should get a cap assit point but...

                    1 person = rate 1 person
                    2 people = i in heli 1 on ground etc should be two people

                    the above is clear, but perhaps.

                    6 people in helicopter.

                    should be equal to

                    1 + 0.5 + .25 + .125 + .125 + .125 = 2.125 people ? I think this is fair.

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                    • OldSchoolSoldier

                      #11
                      Re: The wetlands Heli defense... STORY resulting in a personal BAN

                      The transport helis are absolutely useless against the planes/combat helis on wetlands. Its a well known fact that if you rush to the centre flag and cap it asap, a good pilot can dominate the map with the combat heli. The combat heli will be able to take out any blackhawk whores in its path :)

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                      • UnrealAlex

                        #12
                        Re: The wetlands Heli defense... STORY resulting in a personal BAN

                        What server was it.

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                        • vjs

                          #13
                          Re: The wetlands Heli defense... STORY resulting in a personal BAN

                          I'll either forward the info to EA or lose it. I also have a screen shot of the players names on the teams with scores. Basically captured when the game started to flake out, "the way it normally does before you lose a connection".

                          In retospect it would have been cool to record it, those guys were P.O.'ed, or at least the pilot was.

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                          • ={SOC}= Sniper

                            #14
                            Re: The wetlands Heli defense... STORY resulting in a personal BAN

                            I love doing that in XWW2 for bf1942. PWNT by a kamikaze plane

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                            • JoeJJohnsonII

                              #15
                              Re: The wetlands Heli defense... STORY resulting in a personal BAN

                              I think that using the seahwak to ram is a cheap tactic, but everything else was fair game. Just a case of someone being in power and not liking that they are losing. It sucks, but not a lot you can do. Its good you took it so lightly. If you get really ****ed off, you could always check out this post: http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18799

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