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  • imported_Spuddy
    Member
    • Feb 2007
    • 1242

    #16
    Re: Ranks/Unlocks change with 1.1 patch

    Originally posted by Johnny Butane
    As far as I know most people should not see a such a huge jump. They may perhaps go from Lance Corporal to Corporal but that's all. My status does not reflect the new ranking changes. Sorry. :)
    So what is happening with your account?

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    • YelloPL

      #17
      Re: Ranks/Unlocks change with 1.1 patch

      Maybe they gave him the extra ranks for being a tester. :laugh:

      I have a bad feeling that we expect too much from this patch and many will see it as a disappointment. The forum will be full of threads like '1.1 (1.03) bug report' or 'what should have been in the patch' or 'ideas for the new patch'.

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      • Johnny Butane

        #18
        Re: Ranks/Unlocks change with 1.1 patch

        Originally posted by Yello(PL)
        I have a bad feeling that we expect too much from this patch and many will see it as a disappointment. The forum will be full of threads like '1.1 (1.03) bug report' or 'what should have been in the patch' or 'ideas for the new patch'.
        Can't please everyone.
        If you didn't like the game before, one patch wont change that.

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        • Sneaky Assassin

          #19
          Re: Ranks/Unlocks change with 1.1 patch

          Originally posted by Johnny Butane
          As far as I know most people should not see a such a huge jump. They may perhaps go from Lance Corporal to Corporal but that's all. My status does not reflect the new ranking changes. Sorry. :)
          I would also like to know why your rank is allot higher that it should be?

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          • YelloPL

            #20
            Re: Ranks/Unlocks change with 1.1 patch

            Originally posted by Johnny Butane
            Can't please everyone.
            If you didn't like the game before, one patch wont change that.
            Oh I am satisfied with the game as it is and I'd play it even if the patch would not come at all. I just wanted to point out that many people voice so many expectations about the patch content. I am far from having full confidence that EA & Dice will deliver something of very good quality, but I will definitely not complain as long as the patch does not create more problems than we already have.

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            • Bowman

              #21
              Re: Ranks/Unlocks change with 1.1 patch

              If he works for EA, he can have any Rank or Unlock. Although they mentioned somewhere that the requirements for some ranks might be changed, I dont think they would make it that drastic.

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              • imported_Carwash

                #22
                Re: Ranks/Unlocks change with 1.1 patch

                Originally posted by jumpin
                Certainly, something needs to change with regard to the steps for promotion, if only to lower the 1,000 -> 10,500 gap or maybe introduce something inbetween.

                I play on average maybe 2 to 3 hours per night, and I'd say this is a reasonable amount of gamplay for a casual gamer. It's estimated (by BF2S) that it'll likely take over 250 days to reach my next rank, and that just feels unreachable right now.

                Sure, the gaps should "widen" as the ranks grow, but getting above Lance Corporal shouldn't be so huge. Really this is about weapon unlocks.

                JJ
                I agree, however, they should do it like an MMORPG (WoW for example). The amount of XP needed between levels as you progress gets bigger, but the amount of XP you get from doing quests/ killing things also gets higher. So although it DOES take longer to get that higher level, its not as long as it would be getting the same amount of XP all the way through.

                If you get what i mean :p

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                • Johnny Butane

                  #23
                  Re: Ranks/Unlocks change with 1.1 patch

                  Originally posted by Carwash
                  I agree, however, they should do it like an MMORPG (WoW for example). The amount of XP needed between levels as you progress gets bigger, but the amount of XP you get from doing quests/ killing things also gets higher. So although it DOES take longer to get that higher level, its not as long as it would be getting the same amount of XP all the way through.

                  If you get what i mean :p
                  That's kind of what happens in BF2 naturally.
                  If you noticed, when the game first came out, people were scoring much lower. You didn't see anyone finish with more than 20-30 points. As people learned the maps and got used to the vehicles, their points per game increased and now you regularly see scores in the 60-80 range.

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                  • imported_Carwash

                    #24
                    Re: Ranks/Unlocks change with 1.1 patch

                    not really no, because ..

                    if at private you get a score of 80 .. your ranking / stats will go up from 0 to 100 (for example)

                    if at lance corporal you get a score of 80 .. your ranking / stats will go up the same amount (by 100 (for example))

                    As is my understanding anyway.


                    on MMORPG's, if you're a level 1 to get to level 2 you need say, 100XP, if you kill something which is also a level 1 (same as you), you get say 20XP.

                    Later on, when you're level 20 (needing like 20,000XP to level), when you kill something which is the same level as you (20), you'll get more than 20XP .. say 200XP


                    Or am i missunderstanding how the BF2 system works?

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                    • CommanderD

                      #25
                      Re: Ranks/Unlocks change with 1.1 patch

                      Sounds good maybe they will add new suprise weapons and have more unlockables!

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                      • Johnny Butane

                        #26
                        Re: Ranks/Unlocks change with 1.1 patch

                        Originally posted by CommanderD
                        Sounds good maybe they will add new suprise weapons and have more unlockables!
                        Dreams are fun.

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                        • WolfAlmighty
                          Artillery Magnet
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 2113

                          #27
                          Re: Ranks/Unlocks change with 1.1 patch

                          Originally posted by Carwash
                          not really no, because ..

                          if at private you get a score of 80 .. your ranking / stats will go up from 0 to 100 (for example)

                          if at lance corporal you get a score of 80 .. your ranking / stats will go up the same amount (by 100 (for example))

                          As is my understanding anyway.


                          on MMORPG's, if you're a level 1 to get to level 2 you need say, 100XP, if you kill something which is also a level 1 (same as you), you get say 20XP.

                          Later on, when you're level 20 (needing like 20,000XP to level), when you kill something which is the same level as you (20), you'll get more than 20XP .. say 200XP


                          Or am i missunderstanding how the BF2 system works?
                          I think what he means is that when you're a Private, it's pretty much assuming that you're new to the game. If you're new, you probably won't get as many points per round as the experienced players because you don't know the best strategies and probably don't have the skills down quite yet. So the gap between Private and Lance Corporal (don't know why they even bother to put in Private First Class, to be honest) at 1000 points seems like a lot. To a veteran, like a Corporal or above, who knows the maps and gameplay aspects better, it's not uncommon to score 50+ points per round, so a gap of 1000 is like a day's worth of playing. To me, the gap between Lance Corporal and Corporal seemed larger than the gap between Corporal and Sergeant, even though it was 5000 fewer points. Even the gap between Sergeant and Staff Sergeant seemed about on par with the Lance Corporal - Corporal gap (even though I'm still like 9000 points away from SSgt. :p ) simply because I'm scoring higher now per round than I did when I was a Lance Corporal.

                          Originally posted by [SAJ
                          Sentinel]I'd be the happiest person on the planet if they'd kill ranking alltogether, and let us all use unlocked weapons.

                          I hate having to logoff and login with another account, just so that I can use M95 which I unlocked on another account. Sometimes I just feel like sniping (pilots in the choppers ), and then I have to logoff, login again and hope server is not full.

                          Then, sometimes I feel like being AT (which I play most of the time), so I have to switch back/forth for DAO (which I love).

                          I really don't want to spend 8 hours/day playing BF2, just to reach amount of points that gives me next unlock. I want to do other things in life besides BF2...
                          You do realise that unlocks are supposed to be rewards for your 'hard work', right? If they were to unlock all the weapons for everyone, that would totally defeat the purpose of having unlocks to begin with. Plus, aside from maybe the DAO, all the other unlocks have both positives and negatives associated with them, so they aren't necessarily better than the default weapon, just different. You may like them more, which is great, but if you want them you have to earn them. Or, if you want them to abolish rankings and unlocks and let you use every weapon any time, play on a global unlocks server. They're unranked, but since you don't care about rankings that shouldn't bother you.

                          ~Wolfgang

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                          • Moke

                            #28
                            Re: Ranks/Unlocks change with 1.1 patch

                            imo... they should increase numbers of ranks... lieutenants, captains, majors etc. etc.

                            This would give more room for versetillity in the community.. and make some of the smaller requirements possible...

                            1000, 2500, 5000, 10000, 15000 etc etc.

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                            • smo

                              #29
                              Re: Ranks/Unlocks change with 1.1 patch

                              I'd say "just wait and see" however that's not the answer anyone wants to hear. I think these rumors/assumptions of changing the rank system are way excesive also as i dont think everyone should have all the unlocks and higher ranks that fast. The folks that kill/play a lot SHOULd be rewarded with the current system.
                              Most people have this "quick rewards system instilled in their minds. This game has only been out what...3 months or so and a lot of folks have complained about how "X Award/Medal" is too hard to get. I agree that some of the medals like the one that required you to have all the expert combat badges prior is a bit extereme but heck. it is a "good medal" Id say just leave it as it is.

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                              • Donkey

                                #30
                                Re: Ranks/Unlocks change with 1.1 patch

                                Dont forget ranks also aide in the selection of commander....

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