Patch 1.03? Why bf2 is buggy.

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Mr. ADHD

    #1

    Patch 1.03? Why bf2 is buggy.

    Here are excerpts from a speech giving at the 2004 Game Developers Conference...

    Building Big Licensed Games with Big Teams

    Don L. Daglow
    President, Stormfront Studios

    6. What Are the Key Things to Know About Managing Big Teams on Licensed Properties?

    • The licensor is doing his job when he watches every approval carefully. Help the people involved do their jobs well and you’ll have a better game. Teach that attitude to every team member, not just the senior managers.

    • Small teams work on personal chemistry. Big teams do the same thing, but there are so many different “persons” in that personal chemistry that something else emerges. You can call it Big Team Chemistry. More often it’s referred to as “team culture.”

    On a 6-person team each person has 5 relationships, so 6 x 5 = 30 and you have 30 test tubes of personal chemistry to deal with. That’s a small enough number to work in ways we intuitively understand.

    On a 35-person team that number of relationships jumps to about 1,200. That’s enough people and relationships to make the way that issues ripple through the team seem random and chaotic. Daglow’s Law of Team Dynamics: “Small Teams are Informed, Big Teams Infer.”


    • Culture emerges by default. It doesn’t matter what you say, but it matters a great deal what you do. Give speeches about quality and then ship buggy games and your team will ignore quality and ship buggy games.

    • The bigger the team, the easier it is to be fooled into thinking that key issues are solved when they’re not. With technology changing rapidly, “we’ll do it just like last time” seldom works, and on big teams it’s easier to assume someone else will take care of a problem when in reality no one else has noticed something’s wrong.

    .....

    Example: If two weeks of the schedule are diverted for an E3 demo (no, I haven’t been reading your email…), one of the following things has to happen:

    • The budget has to be increased so more people can come onto the project (a solution that won’t always help), or…

    • The total number/quality of features in the game will turn out to be less than would otherwise have been the case (since neither schedule nor budget change), or…

    • Regardless of what the schedule says, the project will be late and thus cost more (since neither the features nor the official budget change).
  • Slapidus

    #2
    Re: Patch 1.03? Why bf2 is buggy.

    good read thanks

    Comment

    • Krypp596

      #3
      Re: Patch 1.03? Why bf2 is buggy.

      nice

      Comment

      • ConscriptVirus
        Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 6369

        #4
        Re: Patch 1.03? Why bf2 is buggy.

        wow im confused

        Comment

        • Mr. ADHD

          #5
          Re: Patch 1.03? Why bf2 is buggy.

          read the full article here http://www.gdconf.com/archives/2004/

          Originally posted by ConscriptVirus
          wow im confused

          Comment

          • soraflair

            #6
            Re: Patch 1.03? Why bf2 is buggy.

            Wow nice man. I never looked at it that way.

            Comment

            • Seal

              #7
              Re: Patch 1.03? Why bf2 is buggy.

              Yeah thats real nice..

              Comment

              • Screaming_Bunny

                #8
                Re: Patch 1.03? Why bf2 is buggy.

                Nice read, but I still don't understand what he is trying to say, other than managing your people is hard work. As for EA's quality problems, this has been going on for years. Unfortantly, as EA gets bigger and bigger, the general game buyer suffers. I can't remember the last game from EA that I have bought didn't have major issues. I think it was Need For Speed:Hot pursuit, even then it was 2 patches before they got it right.

                Comment

                • Mr. ADHD

                  #9
                  Re: Patch 1.03? Why bf2 is buggy.

                  I just copied pasted...that's all..but it's true.

                  big team...I can just imagine people at DICE...

                  LARS; I THOUGHT HELDA fixed the menu.
                  Helda; DON't BLAME me it's those scandanavians over in Q/A. I was on vacation that week!
                  Hans: Let's get them on the phone...
                  Helda: sorry buddy, they're at e3
                  receptionist: Shipping on line 4 for Bjorn.
                  bjorn: JUST SHIP IT...we'll fix it later....we're neutral remember?

                  Originally posted by soraflair
                  Wow nice man. I never looked at it that way.

                  Comment

                  • Hulka

                    #10
                    Re: Patch 1.03? Why bf2 is buggy.

                    I understand what he's saying, but it's not like this is EA's first game. I've got quite a few EA games and they all have had this problem. There's always a patch within the first week or two. It seems like they do more testing on the patches than they do on the actual production game. And then when they say there's an expansion pack already in the works and they don't have the original game even close to 100% people go ballistic.

                    Comment

                    • Mr. ADHD

                      #11
                      Re: Patch 1.03? Why bf2 is buggy.

                      True.

                      I don't mind patching once the game comes out...it's normal.

                      Nor do I think they did a bad job with Bf2 1.0, they just have to move a little faster.

                      Originally posted by Hulka
                      I understand what he's saying, but it's not like this is EA's first game. I've got quite a few EA games and they all have had this problem. There's always a patch within the first week or two. It seems like they do more testing on the patches than they do on the actual production game. And then when they say there's an expansion pack already in the works and they don't have the original game even close to 100% people go ballistic.

                      Comment

                      • Hulka

                        #12
                        Re: Patch 1.03? Why bf2 is buggy.

                        I'm not saying the game sucks or anything like that. I wouldn't have like 150 hours if it did. Neither do the other 10-15 games I have by EA. I just wish they would learn from their mistakes from previous versions of Battlefield and release a more finished product.

                        Comment

                        Working...