Why BHs shouldent be nerfed...

[OriginalGangster]

Because its more fun to shoot them down than it is to fly in them

I bet EA nerfs the miniguns so bad that the BH will be sitting at the helepad empty for the duration of the round.

[DrunkenPirate]

Re: Why BHs shouldent be nerfed...

I think that the only thing that should be altered is the in-flight repair ability.
I never heard of a damaged Black hawk being repaired in mid air with the rotors spinning and all...
Yes I know gameplay > realism but perhaps the repair rate should just be reduced and leave it at that.

[Ghost-MOH-]

Re: Why BHs shouldent be nerfed...

Er, weren't they just going to make it repair slower with an engineer, and cap flags slower unless the crew dismounts?

[imported_Iridium]

Re: Why BHs shouldent be nerfed...

i say reduce its health, impliment the slower flag cap if everyone remains in the chopper, and keep the in flight repair and the miniguns. the biggest problem with these things is that you can never get enough hits in at once to take it down, they always float off before you can get in that fatal shot, and by the time they come back, theyre good as new.

[MrChris_CJ]

Re: Why BHs shouldent be nerfed...

yer the guns dont need toning down u jus need to make it impossible for engineers to repair bhs in flight

[PsychoticPikachu]

Re: Why BHs shouldent be nerfed...

Don't tone down the guns, but then at least even out the power on the guns for the MEC and PLA transport helicopters.

And yeah, slower repair time would help as well.

[a1pointguard]

Re: Why BHs shouldent be nerfed...

Psychoticpikachu, when you get to the movie with the pokemon the "Play Movie" link doesnt work...

[Eddy01741]

Re: Why BHs shouldent be nerfed...

How bout nerf all the choppers for in flight repairing, so they HAVE to go land at a heli pad to repair, not only the BH, or else the BH will be sitting on the helipad the whole game. the only advantage it has is the miniguns, that's just like the 30mm cannon on the Mi-28 vs. the 7.62mm chainguns on the other attack helis, or the awesome manuverability on hte J-10 compared to other fighters. It's BHs arn't overpowered, transport helis are, which includes the BH, take away the ability to fix the heli while flying.

[Teaves]

Re: Why BHs shouldent be nerfed...

Even if they half the power of the mini-guns they will still be the most powerful weapon on the battlefield by a long way. it currently takes just 5 seconds of sustained fire to kill an APC from full health :shakehead and if you "feather" the guns correctly you NEVER have to stop firing. I just wanted them to take out flag capping and in-flight repair to make it more realistic originally but if the are still going to able to do this but slower, then some other balance needs to be made.

1) Nerf the guns, or leave them the same as they are now but add an ammo supply.

2) OR leave everything the same but give NO assist points to the crew for either flag caps, kills, or supply/heal (i.e the pilot gets just one point for a flag cap, the gunners get just 1 point for thier own kill only, and engineers get one point for repairing) This way people wouldnt whore it up just for the points like they do now.

3) OR make them MUCH easier to damage by small arms fire, if you are diectly under any helicopter that is hovering at 20 feet and fire off a full clip of assault rifle fire into its belly or tail, then that should definatly kill crew but more likely ground it quickly (as we have seen in real life unfortunatly)

Any one of these 3 things would work IMHO, i just dont understand why there is such a vast difference between the BH and other teams transport choppers, what on earth were they thinking at the playtesting stage

Anyway all in all i think the "alleged" changes in that rumour post are all good, and i have no problem with them nerfing the BH guns, maybe people will have to actually aim them for a change, rather then just spray and pray :ar15: I would rather them change one vehicle to lower power then change the other two into flying uber tanks anyway

We can of course infer ALL choppers will have the same nerf to in-flight repair the reason its only mentioned for the BH is because most people dont bother repairing the other teams versions as they are actually used as TRANSPORTS surprisngly enough, plus the fact the crew last about 0.3 seconds when you come side on to a BH before all being mini-gunned out and leaving the chopper circling away into the heavens

[motorboatJones]

Re: Why BHs shouldent be nerfed...

Because its more fun to shoot them down than it is to fly in them

I bet EA nerfs the miniguns so bad that the BH will be sitting at the helepad empty for the duration of the round.

I wish I could get in one when someone of this overwheling force is used. Everytime I get in one it's almost like being in a flying coffin. Slow, vulnerable to jets and missiles. I guess it's the maps I play. I only play on Oman and Dragon Valley. Get in a BH on Oman and you're almost sure to die before you hit the beach.

I have yet to get on a good team where a bunch of people get in the BH and we attack a flag. Most of the time it's one or two guys, and the first thing they do is just open up with the guns, wasting ammo. Then the pilot flies around for about 2 mins before being shot down or bailing out.

I guess there must be some maps where there are no planes or sam sites that can take out the BHs so easily.

[motorboatJones]

Re: Why BHs shouldent be nerfed...

yer the guns dont need toning down u jus need to make it impossible for engineers to repair bhs in flight

OK, I'm going to ask yet another stupid question. How does an engineer repair the thing in flight? Is he sitting in a non-gunner position, pops open the wrench and hits E? I didn't even know you could do that. I have never been in one when someone did it.

I've had the game two months. I learn something new every day.

[Eddy01741]

Re: Why BHs shouldent be nerfed...

OK, I'm going to ask yet another stupid question. How does an engineer repair the thing in flight? Is he sitting in a non-gunner position, pops open the wrench and hits E? I didn't even know you could do that. I have never been in one when someone did it.

I've had the game two months. I learn something new every day.

Non-gunner, non pilot position, then he just takes out his trusty wrench, it's really unrealistic.

[sPlizi]

Re: Why BHs shouldent be nerfed...

i think they just needed to tone down the minigun to the other heli´s level...that would create a competition between transport choppers...

[X-ander]

Re: Why BHs shouldent be nerfed...

They should give the mec / chinese chopper that uber gun the mec at sharqui peninsula gulf of oman has. You know the one that splashes damage really hard.

That way all the whiners would stfu

[Eddy01741]

Re: Why BHs shouldent be nerfed...

They should give the mec / chinese chopper that uber gun the mec at sharqui peninsula gulf of oman has. You know the one that splashes damage really hard.

That way all the whiners would stfu

Nah, here goes the advantages in the air for the factions:

Mec: Attackheli, why, the co-pilots gun.
Pla: Fighter, why, because it's so damn manuverable.
Usmc: Transportheli, why, miniguns.

It's already equal now.