G3 or L85A

[18Zulukiller]

Re: G3 or L85A

, but up close will lose to anything other than maybe an SMG or pistol because of the massive deviation on full-auto. I have the G3 and it's easily my favourite gun in the game, but I do not like facing a medic with the L85 at long range because he has a huge advantage.

~Wolfgang

You honestly DO NOT KNOW how to use the L85A1 that massive recoil is because of the extremely fast rate of fire. I to used to be a NOOBLET like you and the other idiots on this thread and slag of weapons. If you browse some of my older posts you'll see me slag of the DOA but since that post i have learned how to use the weapon and i know have adapted my tactics and rule when i use it. And another thing that's annoying the hell out of me the L85A1 is NOT a weak weapon its power is comparable to that of the M16 BUT its fully auto which IMO makes it a supieror choice to the M16 . And all you people that use nothing but the weapon charts that are doing the rounds to make your choices are completely nuts the scope of the L85 isn't factored into any of the results on those charts. Think of it this way you aim at a distance with the M16 the sights will totally cover up your target but if your using the scope you can clearly place your sights dead in the middle of the enemy's chest . So therefore if you think of this rationally the L85 can have a greater deviation but still be more accurate due to the fact your definitely aiming dead centre of the chest instead of possibly aiming over there shoulder because your sights are covering the target .

BTW i cant be certain about this but out of all the weapons Ive tried in game the AK74 (SF MEC) seems to be by far the most accurate weapon in game (except for snipers rifles) i just though id add that point.

Right from my experiences in game at close range only thing that can beat the L85A1 is the shotgun , G3 , NOOB CANNON , AT missiles and possibly the support weapons if used by a skilled player. Other than that the L85A1 in a SKILLED players hands IMO makes them a Superior soldier on the battlefield up-close you should nearly beat anything (just learn to adapt to the recoil) at a distance your a mini sniper and you get nades ow and before i forget you can SELF HEAL.

[DimeBagWhore]

Re: G3 or L85A

The L85 does have a little more damage per round than the M16A2, but not enought to make much difference. Still takes 2 headshots to kill, 4 body shots with no armour, but 5 shots against armour instead of 6.

The rate of fire is the same as the AKs/G3/Carbines (all 600) and lower than the M16 (900), but with burst vs full auto it's hard to say which will actually dish out the rounds faster.

However, the L85 has much worse acuracy stats than the M16A2. It's not just the recoil, but the deviation per shot is much worse, and the deviation when prone is terrible compared to the M16.

Sure, the scope will help you to sight the weapon correctly, but I don't think that really makes up for the lack of acuracy compared to the M16s.

It's harder to make a comparison with the AKs. The L85 should be more accurate in single shot, but the AKs do significantly more damage, so at close-medium range they will be more effective (kill with 1 headshot, 3 against no armour, 4-5 against armour).

Bottom line, the scope is nice, but if you learn to live with burst mode, the M16 is a better gun.

[18Zulukiller]

Re: G3 or L85A

There are more things in this game than the weapon charts please dont quote them there just a small peace of code .

EDIT:- Im actually useing in game experience

[Eddy01741]

Re: G3 or L85A

You honestly DO NOT KNOW how to use the L85A1 that massive recoil is because of the extremely fast rate of fire. I to used to be a NOOBLET like you and the other idiots on this thread and slag of weapons. If you browse some of my older posts you'll see me slag of the DOA but since that post i have learned how to use the weapon and i know have adapted my tactics and rule when i use it. And another thing that's annoying the hell out of me the L85A1 is NOT a weak weapon its power is comparable to that of the M16 BUT its fully auto which IMO makes it a supieror choice to the M16 . And all you people that use nothing but the weapon charts that are doing the rounds to make your choices are completely nuts the scope of the L85 isn't factored into any of the results on those charts. Think of it this way you aim at a distance with the M16 the sights will totally cover up your target but if your using the scope you can clearly place your sights dead in the middle of the enemy's chest . So therefore if you think of this rationally the L85 can have a greater deviation but still be more accurate due to the fact your definitely aiming dead centre of the chest instead of possibly aiming over there shoulder because your sights are covering the target .

BTW i cant be certain about this but out of all the weapons Ive tried in game the AK74 (SF MEC) seems to be by far the most accurate weapon in game (except for snipers rifles) i just though id add that point.

Right from my experiences in game at close range only thing that can beat the L85A1 is the shotgun , G3 , NOOB CANNON , AT missiles and possibly the support weapons if used by a skilled player. Other than that the L85A1 in a SKILLED players hands IMO makes them a Superior soldier on the battlefield up-close you should nearly beat anything (just learn to adapt to the recoil) at a distance your a mini sniper and you get nades ow and before i forget you can SELF HEAL.

Ok, calm down, i will speak the truth, and only the truth. THe L85 does not have a high rate of fire, end of story, do not argue with that. THe recoil is horrible, you can't argue that. It is only accurate at point-blank range, or if you're prone with the scope up, on semi, i've tried the thing on auto, it's all over the place. And the AK74U is far from the most accurate gun, it has a red-dot scope, that's about all, a pistol is better than that in terms of accuracy. THe QBZ-97 is very accurate, it has no scope, but you don't need a frickin scope. THe G36C is by far the most accurate full auto weapon, and i include the M16A2in there even though it's not full auto, the G36C is still more accurate. Um, and a lot of things could beat a L85, a AK would take you down in no time, seriously, even a G36C could take you down. plus, the old C4 in their face trick, works as well, even though you urself die. And also, tanks, APCs, all vehicles could beat a medic at close range, Medic=heal+revive, not kill very much. Plus, a M16A2 could easily outpace an L85 for long range, so it only provides benfits for long range for the Mec and PLA. Anyways, if we all looked at game charts, we'd all be using G36Cs, it's already a great weapon. Nobody relies only on the charts, we all know, charts don't mean much in combat. And there's more things to the game than flaming everybody on the forum and saying how the L85 is by far the best weapon in game.

[DimeBagWhore]

Re: G3 or L85A

There are more things in this game than the weapon charts please dont quote them there just a small peace of code .

EDIT:- Im actually useing in game experience

LOL - "there just a small peace of code" - you do realise that code is the *only* thing that determines how the guns actually work?

Anyway, feel free to test the weapons. I have and the M16 is far more acurate than the L85 in single shot and burst/auto modes. I've also used both weapons extensively. My first account I played medic almost exclusively. At first I thought the L85 was great but I slowly came to realise how much it sucked. When I swtiched back to using the stock weapons I discovered just how good the M16 is if used correctly.

[Eddy01741]

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LOL - "there just a small peace of code" - you do realise that code is the *only* thing that determines how the guns actually work?

Anyway, feel free to test the weapons. I have and the M16 is far more acurate than the L85 in single shot and burst/auto modes. I've also used both weapons extensively. My first account I played medic almost exclusively. At first I thought the L85 was great but I slowly came to realise how much it sucked. When I swtiched back to using the stock weapons I discovered just how good the M16 is if used correctly.

Yeah, that happens to unlocks sometimes. I don't remember the name, but somebody on the forum always used the M95 and thought it was great, than he switched back to the M24 to see how it compares, his sniping ot a ton better, sometimes unlocks teach you how to use the stock weapons better.

[18Zulukiller]

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Ok why if the L85A1 is so crap am i always and i do mean always kicking peoples arses that use the G36C and AK's and the M16A2 ow and before i forget the M4 im hardly every killed by them EVER . Dam i can even run around a corner into 2 or 3 guys all with AK'S and kill them ill have sod all life at the end of it but ill killem all . BTW i very rarely jump around like an idiot or dolphine dive incase you think its somthing like that . OH yeah and you mentioning tanks and apc's and planes is just ****ing stupid and proves what a complete prick you are i didnt snap at you in my reply to your thread i tried to be as polite as possible but if your gonna talk **** like that it just proves what a prick you our . BTW have you actualy looked at all the code for the game i seriously doubt it even if you had an ubar decompilar youd still be left with a pile of **** thats unreadable . So why dont you go **** yourself i know your daddy did bad things to you as a child but theres no need to take it out on the rest of the world BIATCH.

[Eddy01741]

Re: G3 or L85A

Ok why if the L85A1 is so crap am i always and i do mean always kicking peoples arses that use the G36C and AK's and the M16A2 ow and before i forget the M4 im hardly every killed by them EVER . Dam i can even run around a corner into 2 or 3 guys all with AK'S and kill them ill have sod all life at the end of it but ill killem all . BTW i very rarely jump around like an idiot or dolphine dive incase you think its somthing like that . OH yeah and you mentioning tanks and apc's and planes is just ****ing stupid and proves what a complete prick you are i didnt snap at you in my reply to your thread i tried to be as polite as possible but if your gonna talk **** like that it just proves what a prick you our . BTW have you actualy looked at all the code for the game i seriously doubt it even if you had an ubar decompilar youd still be left with a pile of **** thats unreadable . So why dont you go **** yourself i know your daddy did bad things to you as a child but theres no need to take it out on the rest of the world BIATCH.

You weren't polite at all, don't argue with that, read your second post on this thread, then you can see how impolite you are. Plus, i don't get killed by L85s, i get killed by idiots with noobnades all the time, then after that it's the aks, then the M16, then the G36C, and finally the other spec ops weapons. L85 ain't a bad weapon, i'm just sayin it ain't the best weapon in da world. Plus, why are you so angry, just calm down, you sweared so much in your post, read the last 3 sentances of the post i quoted, if i said that to you, you would be very angry, so just don't do that. Doing that a lot will make you a temp ban, i've seen somebody with a 5 day ban, he was like you, except he did that a lot more, he has over 1500 here, if you keep it up, temp bans are coming, so just calm down.

[18Zulukiller]

Re: G3 or L85A

hmmm how is

There are more things in this game than the weapon charts please dont quote them there just a small peace of code .

EDIT:- Im actually useing in game experience

impolite i said please i didnt berate anyone or make stupid examples about tanks and planes did i

[Eddy01741]

Re: G3 or L85A

hmmm how is

There are more things in this game than the weapon charts please dont quote them there just a small peace of code .

EDIT:- Im actually useing in game experience

impolite i said please i didnt berate anyone or make stupid examples about tanks and planes did i

How bout this, you take out all the codes for guns, see how it does, the L85 won't fire a round. Don't disrespect the gun code, you try to make your own code, see how people like it, plus it was sarcasm/joking about the tank and airlplane thing, i didn't think yu would take it seriously.

[18Zulukiller]

Re: G3 or L85A

How bout this, you take out all the codes for guns, see how it does, the L85 won't fire a round. Don't disrespect the gun code, you try to make your own code, see how people like it, plus it was sarcasm/joking about the tank and airlplane thing, i didn't think yu would take it seriously.

sarcasm is what arseholes use when they cant think of something constructive to say.

[Eddy01741]

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sarcasm is what arseholes use when they cant think of something constructive to say.

OOO, i'm scared (sarcastic) i can use sarcasm all i want, using bad language is what a$$holes do. If you use too much language, you get a temp ban on total BF2, if you use sarcasm, it does nothing. Plus you're not saying anything constructive either, and same with your last 3 or so posts. Anyways back on topic, if you're trigger happy with the G3, you're gonna run outta ammo in notime, on my other account i unlocked it, it's fun to play with, it takes time to get used to it. And the L85 is a good weapon, just remember to be at least at medium range, and then use semi auto and pick people off, it's good as a makeshift sniper, but it's not a medics weapon, i see too many people trying to be a sniper with it, instead of healing/reviving in the heat of battle.

[18Zulukiller]

Re: G3 or L85A

OOO, i'm scared (sarcastic) i can use sarcasm all i want, using bad language is what a$$holes do. If you use too much language, you get a temp ban on total BF2, if you use sarcasm, it does nothing. Plus you're not saying anything constructive either, and same with your last 3 or so posts. Anyways back on topic, if you're trigger happy with the G3, you're gonna run outta ammo in notime, on my other account i unlocked it, it's fun to play with, it takes time to get used to it. And the L85 is a good weapon, just remember to be at least at medium range, and then use semi auto and pick people off, it's good as a makeshift sniper, but it's not a medics weapon, i see too many people trying to be a sniper with it, instead of healing/reviving in the heat of battle.

I was only trying to be helpfull if you look at my original posts in this thread i dont beleave i swore once untill people started talking **** . You just realy dont know how to use the L85A1 to its full effect i honestly dont think any of the weapons are crap in this game its just down to the way you use them. And adviseing people not to get any closer than medium range with the L85A1 is stupid as you said its a medics weapon and they need to be on the front and thats how it was designed to be ingame. Just becouse your unsuccessfull in one on one situations with the L85A1 Dosnt mean its a bad upclose weapon it just means its not suited to your style of play .

Tip for anyone wanting to use the L85A1 upclose aim for the top chest and spray and shake simple as that go for the head. Actualy that tip will proberly work with most fullyauto weapons.

[Eddy01741]

Re: G3 or L85A

I was only trying to be helpfull if you look at my original posts in this thread i dont beleave i swore once untill people started talking **** . You just realy dont know how to use the L85A1 to its full effect i honestly dont think any of the weapons are crap in this game its just down to the way you use them. And adviseing people not to get any closer than medium range with the L85A1 is stupid as you said its a medics weapon and they need to be on the front and thats how it was designed to be ingame. Just becouse your unsuccessfull in one on one situations with the L85A1 Dosnt mean its a bad upclose weapon it just means its not suited to your style of play .

Tip for anyone wanting to use the L85A1 upclose aim for the top chest and spray and shake simple as that go for the head. Actualy that tip will proberly work with most fullyauto weapons.

Well yes, aim for the chest, it'll go to the head, aim it like you aimed a CV-47 (ak-47, it's just because of copyrighted names) in CS.

[18Zulukiller]

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Well yes, aim for the chest, it'll go to the head, aim it like you aimed a CV-47 (ak-47, it's just because of copyrighted names) in CS.

Thank you i cant honestly say i know what you mean ive never played CS the only fsp shoters ive ever played are bf2, Americas army and bf1942 which i hated (except for the star wars mod them giant walkers ruled).