The M95 is a total piece of sh1t

[S_t_a_l_i_n]

i was playing today and thought i might go sniping for the whole round, so i got out my M95 and what do u know, i cannot kill a single person with it, then i switched to the SVD and the kills just keep on coming!! I mean what the fcuk was DICE smoking when they made the M95?? cuz it's some pretty strong stuff, i mean when was the last time a 50cal rifle didnt kill a person when u shoot them in the chest area in real life?? it's just sad that DICE didnt even bother hiring a military consultant, WHICH IS FCUKING GAY!!!

[bigbay82]

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I agree, the M95 should a be one shot kill if you hit them anywhere above the stomach. I know they didnt want one shot kills with the sniper rifles but this is pretty sad.

[||Animal||]

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Absolutely agree...

[Paas]

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I think it was just poor weapon selection.

I can understand from a gameplay perspective that EA/DICE did not want one shot kills from weapons, but, on the same note it's a .50 caliber sniper rifle. There is really NO WAY to logically make people think in terms of .50cals NOT being a fatal round.. even when you factor in the concept of body armor n' such.

EA probably should have opted for somthing that, while extremely powerfull, could be stopped by body armor.

For instance, maybe a .300 Win S.M./M, or maybe even a .338 L., or hell, even a 7mm Mag, or a 30-06. All of those rounds would be able to penetrate body armor better than an .308, yet, still be stopped under the wildest circumstances by modern body armor.

Also, with the adjustment of the rifles would have to come new damage calculations; and they should be as such.

SVD(7.62x54r) and M24(7.62x51NATO) - should body hit with about the same power, clocking in at about 50 damage to the chest, and 75 to the limbs, and of course a kill to the head. Modern body armor is VERY capable of stopping both rounds (I belevie they shoot 115g. Bullets, I could be off a little on this)

M95(.50! I don't even know the exact measurements, I would guess 12.7x75, or somthing of that nature) - This should just be flat out done away with, either that, or it should kill in one hit to the chest/head, and critically injur in all other circumstances.

China Gun(5.8x45... right?) No personall experience with this one, but, I would imagine it could punch through body armor with some decent velocities, probably would shatter inside of a indvidual... and take a very rounds to break the plates of any givin' bodyarmor, but, it could work? So, maybe make a function such as:

First connection there is a 20% chance of penetration, second connection to the chest 40% chance of penetration, and third, about 90% chance (Figurin' the plates would be pretty weak at this point?)

If the round penetrates it should do about 65 damage to the torso considering that it's more than likely to fragment off of body inside of a target and do considerable damage vs. a .308, or .300 win mag that's just going to blow a solid hole through you. Maybe 25 damage to limbs, considering the round wouldn't really have enough time to fragment.

...yeah this is a lot, mostly a brain fart. But, I figured why the hell not?

Anyways, a good rifle to replace the M95 with is probably a Dakota T-76 Longbow, dominately accurate rifle there. And very capable of extreme armor penetration with it's .338 laupa round... functions could rate as such:

Torso hit - 1st 80% chance of penetration, 2nd 95% chance of penetration (Stops here, always a chance of failure of penetration, unlike the barret. Although, it's HIGHLY unlikely a .338 won't rip through you and your buddies behind ya'.)

Damage to the torso would be about 95 (The current of the M24), cause if a .338 don't kill ya', you're damn near dead or immobile.

Limbs would have to be INSTANT critical wounds, .338 is likely to take them off. (If you doubt that, think about it. A .308 will take ya' down and it fires a 115g., .338 fires a 166 Sierra I belevie... OUch!? )

Ok, I'm done... just some ideas.

{WP}Paas

[usiel]

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I do have the M95 unlocked though I rarely use the sniper kit but I think its mainly about when to use it.

If I'm US I like to use it as an anti-sniper weap. I'll use the M24 when I'm not just because I like the faster reload time.

Never liked the MEC/China sniper rifle at all.

[[U]Mk. 3]

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I agree, the M95 should a be one shot kill if you hit them anywhere above the stomach. I know they didnt want one shot kills with the sniper rifles but this is pretty sad.

wtf?
That might be the point of a Sniper rifle. If not Snipers might as well just throw bologna at thier targets.

[imported_HorrorBusiness]

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I rarely use sniper rifles, but I picked up a M95 off a dead sniper to try it out and ripped off 9 consequtive kills on Gulf of Oman pretty easily. It looked like my head shots on low armored kits were all one shot one kills. Think that will be my next unlock. Already have the G36C and PKM.

[DLWebmaestro96]

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it's just sad that DICE didnt even bother hiring a military consultant, WHICH IS FCUKING GAY!!!

So apparently not hiring military consultants can be added to the list of things that tells one's sexual orientation.

[imported_DKP-Orkan]

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bottom line: body armor cannot even come close to stopping a direct hit from a .308win that comes outa the m24.

... and even if it did stop it, the amount of energy transferred to your body would be enough to crush every rib in your chest, making you "critically wounded" anyway.

reference: http://www.bulletproofme.com/Ballist...n_Levels.shtml

Considering the toughest armor they show is a Level-III A which will stop 9 mm FMJ at ~1,400 fps. I shoot 50gr. Hornady V-max out of my AR-15 .223rem @ 3300 fps. This would DEFINATELY penetrate the highest class armor they list.

Now, a 165gr FMJ fired @ 2800 fps or more from a .308 is sure as hell going to penetrate the front armor, the body, and exit out the back armor of that person.

Any before you skeptics get all nuts, I have a military background, and have been hunting since I was approx. 5yrs old. I know what it takes to kill something, and I know what kind of punch modern rifles carry.

This game is not about realism... its about gameplay. I just want the sniper rifles to be more accurate. I can get the headshot on my own... just give me the damn accuracy the rifles deserve!

[vbl]

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So apparently not hiring military consultants can be added to the list of things that tells one's sexual orientation.

I think he means gay-stupid, not gay-homosexual.

[Eddy01741]

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I think it was just poor weapon selection.

I can understand from a gameplay perspective that EA/DICE did not want one shot kills from weapons, but, on the same note it's a .50 caliber sniper rifle. There is really NO WAY to logically make people think in terms of .50cals NOT being a fatal round.. even when you factor in the concept of body armor n' such.

EA probably should have opted for somthing that, while extremely powerfull, could be stopped by body armor.

For instance, maybe a .300 Win S.M./M, or maybe even a .338 L., or hell, even a 7mm Mag, or a 30-06. All of those rounds would be able to penetrate body armor better than an .308, yet, still be stopped under the wildest circumstances by modern body armor.

Also, with the adjustment of the rifles would have to come new damage calculations; and they should be as such.

SVD(7.62x54r) and M24(7.62x51NATO) - should body hit with about the same power, clocking in at about 50 damage to the chest, and 75 to the limbs, and of course a kill to the head. Modern body armor is VERY capable of stopping both rounds (I belevie they shoot 115g. Bullets, I could be off a little on this)

M95(.50! I don't even know the exact measurements, I would guess 12.7x75, or somthing of that nature) - This should just be flat out done away with, either that, or it should kill in one hit to the chest/head, and critically injur in all other circumstances.

China Gun(5.8x45... right?) No personall experience with this one, but, I would imagine it could punch through body armor with some decent velocities, probably would shatter inside of a indvidual... and take a very rounds to break the plates of any givin' bodyarmor, but, it could work? So, maybe make a function such as:

First connection there is a 20% chance of penetration, second connection to the chest 40% chance of penetration, and third, about 90% chance (Figurin' the plates would be pretty weak at this point?)

If the round penetrates it should do about 65 damage to the torso considering that it's more than likely to fragment off of body inside of a target and do considerable damage vs. a .308, or .300 win mag that's just going to blow a solid hole through you. Maybe 25 damage to limbs, considering the round wouldn't really have enough time to fragment.

...yeah this is a lot, mostly a brain fart. But, I figured why the hell not?

Anyways, a good rifle to replace the M95 with is probably a Dakota T-76 Longbow, dominately accurate rifle there. And very capable of extreme armor penetration with it's .338 laupa round... functions could rate as such:

Torso hit - 1st 80% chance of penetration, 2nd 95% chance of penetration (Stops here, always a chance of failure of penetration, unlike the barret. Although, it's HIGHLY unlikely a .338 won't rip through you and your buddies behind ya'.)

Damage to the torso would be about 95 (The current of the M24), cause if a .338 don't kill ya', you're damn near dead or immobile.

Limbs would have to be INSTANT critical wounds, .338 is likely to take them off. (If you doubt that, think about it. A .308 will take ya' down and it fires a 115g., .338 fires a 166 Sierra I belevie... OUch!? )

Ok, I'm done... just some ideas.

{WP}Paas

Wow, nice spam, a .308 bullet could penetrate body armor, in fact, a 5.56 FMJ for all i care could penetrate body armor dude. And the 12.7 round is the 12.7x99 BMG round. And it's a game dude, it's good enough, it has the accuracy of an SVD, it has bolt action and the power of a M24. It ignores body armor and can penetrate glass. It's good enough dude. And if a 5.8x45 or whatever could penetrate body armr, a NATO 7.62 round will definetly penetrate body armor with high velocities provided with sniper rifles. All the unlocks are fine dude, lay off the humoungus post, this is not a flame, do not flame me unless you have intents to start a flame war.

EDIT: DKP-Orkan said it before i did, i had to go pis so i had a little break while writing this post.

[usiel]

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Its all about game balancing not real world bullestics. M24 does feel a bit more accurate than the M95.

[Eddy01741]

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Its all about game balancing not real world bullestics. M24 does feel a bit more accurate than the M95.

Don't worry, it is, the M95 is just as accurate as the SVD, look at the top of this link:
http://www.after-hourz.com/forum/ind...=0&#entry75913

It has the same deviation with zoom/scope as the SVD, which is 0.02, the M24 has 0.01, lower is better, it's definetly less accurate, but not less accurate than the SVD.

[DLWebmaestro96]

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I think he means gay-stupid, not gay-homosexual.

I still find it an insult to gay people, since the "gay-stupid" got its start by people equating homosexuals with negativity.

But that's okay... I'm starting to use "jewish" as jewish-stupid, not jewish-the religion. :)

"OMG, you bunny hop? That's so jewish!"

[Eddy01741]

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I still find it an insult to gay people, since the "gay-stupid" got its start by people equating homosexuals with negativity.

But that's okay... I'm starting to use "jewish" as jewish-stupid, not jewish-the religion. :)

"OMG, you bunny hop? That's so jewish!"

Yeah, why do so many people say "that is so g-a-y" I had to put the dashes because it will make them the word g ay into asterisks. I mean it offends people that are really g ay because it makes them feel mor different, people commit hate crimes on g ay peoples, in fact a lot of g ay people suicide. They're not bad, or evil, or breaking any laws, they're just different, they're just attracted to the same gender instead of the opposite gender, lay of saying that something is g ay, it makes whoever says that look like a teenager, cause since when i was in high school (like 6-7 years ago) everybody said, that is so g ay. They do that so much, don't be one of those immature teenagers.