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  • maranello

    #1

    i need some serious help

    when i shoot the ground, nothing happens, there is no dust coming out at all. no matter which detail texture, or color, or material i use, this does not change. please and please dont tell me material needs to match detail texture and all that this is not some noob problem i am having here. this is a serious bug with the editor. it is so serious that, even if i create a completely blank terrain, i still have the same problem! i tried reinstalling the game, reinstalling the editor, still the same. after reinstalling everything, if i dont put my map in levels folder, everything is fine. if i do put it, it happens, and it affects every other terrain i create. i just cannot restart making the map, and i am not doing something wrong. i already made 3 maps and i am doing the same thing i did before. the only difference is, the map i am making is 1024 x 1024 (scale 2). i have only 2 little spawn points and thats all. since the map is so big, i am right now trying to paint the terrain thats all. no objects, effects, ambient effects, light settings included. i havent compiled any lightmaps or did anything crazy. this happened many many times, and every time i restarted making my map and this last time i did everything very very carefully.all i did was

    i created the map. made a big sea, 2 rivers, no texture at all. i made the water (i copied water.con, water folder, envmaps folder from daliant plant, but this cant be the problem because i did this on my other maps 3 times) then i enabled surrounding terrain. selected the simplest texture ever, and painted the surrounding terrain. now since surrounding terrain is 8 times bigger than the map, it took me 2-3 days to paint it (2048 x 2048 is huge) and i made some mountains and thats all. today i was going to start painting the main map terrain, but here we go, i have this dumbest most stupid annoying horrible bug and i cant do a damn thing. the weird thing is, there was this little spot i had painted right when i started the map before even making the sea and rivers. when i go there and shoot the ground, it works, no problem.

    someone please help me, i am sure if you just spend a little bit of time about this problem, you will figure out whats going on. i just cannot throw away every single map i start and this one is supposed to be very very good. i am planning working on it at least 2-3 weeks. i need your help. thank you very much.

    Ps I am also getting these error messages

    Ignored Warning[Object] : dep: someone is leaking object resources
    [Object] : leaked EffectBundle of template e_sold_swim
    [Object] : leaked EffectBundle of template e_muzz_m4
    [Object] : leaked EffectBundle of template e_shellejection_556
    [Object] : leaked EffectBundle of template e_bhit_s_sand
    [Object] : leaked EffectBundle of template e_bhit_s_sand
    [Object] : leaked EffectBundle of template e_bhit_s_sand
    [Object] : leaked EffectBundle of template e_bhit_s_sand
    [Object] : leaked EffectBundle of template e_bhit_s_sand
    [Object] : leaked EffectBundle of template e_bhit_s_sand
    [Object] : leaked EffectBundle of template e_bhit_s_sand
    [Object] : leaked EffectBundle of template e_bhit_s_sand
    [Object] : leaked EffectBundle of template e_bhit_s_sand
    [Object] : leaked EffectBundle of template e_bhit_s_sand
    [Object] : leaked EffectBundle of template e_bhit_s_sand
    [Object] : leaked EffectBundle of template e_bhit_s_sand
    [Object] : leaked EffectBundle of template e_bhit_s_sand
    [Object] : leaked EffectBundle of template e_bhit_s_sand
    [Object] : leaked EffectBundle of template e_bhit_s_sand
    [Object] : leaked EffectBundle of template e_bhit_s_sand
    [Object] : leaked EffectBundle of template e_bhit_s_sand
  • HicRic

    #2
    No bug here, nothing wrong.

    You just have to generate the particle atlas. :)

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    • maranello

      #3
      Originally posted by HicRic
      No bug here, nothing wrong.

      You just have to generate the particle atlas. :)
      nope that didnt do it...compile-> generate particle atlas right?...didnt work..if you read my post carefully, you would understand that this doesnt happen in only one map, it happens even in the blank maps i create. if i reinstall everything, they work fine, until at some point, something screws up everything, including the map i am working on AND the editor.

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      • HicRic

        #4
        Blank maps would never have particles unless you generated the particle atlas, though. I suggested it because you didn't mention you'd done it. :) I've never had any problem with no dust kicking up post-generation.

        Send me a basic map you've made in which the problem occurs, and I'll try and help you out. (rfwarlock@aol.com)

        As for those leak errors, I've noticed it happens when I load a map after I've already loaded another map. Seems like a real bug.

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        • maranello

          #5
          Originally posted by HicRic
          Blank maps would never have particles unless you generated the particle atlas, though. I suggested it because you didn't mention you'd done it. :) I've never had any problem with no dust kicking up post-generation.

          Send me a basic map you've made in which the problem occurs, and I'll try and help you out. (rfwarlock@aol.com)

          i will send it in about 5 minutes. thank you very much for your help

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          • maranello

            #6
            there you go...thank you so much for doing this.

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            • HicRic

              #7
              No problem mate, happy to lend a hand!

              Edit: okay, I've run a few tests.

              1) level loaded in editor -> switched to soldier cam -> shot at ground. CTD'd. Soldier cam is known to be buggy, so possibly irrelivant.

              2) loaded BF2 -> loaded level -> shot ground. confirm no particles

              3) loaded in editor. generated particle atlas. loaded level in BF2 and shot ground. confirm no particles still.

              conclusions: there is a problem here. Please give me longer to get to the bottom of this. (it's 10pm here so expect further info tomorrow.)

              if you want to try something, try using other textures and especially different materials.

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              • maranello

                #8
                Originally posted by HicRic
                No problem mate, happy to lend a hand!

                Edit: okay, I've run a few tests.

                1) level loaded in editor -> switched to soldier cam -> shot at ground. CTD'd. Soldier cam is known to be buggy, so possibly irrelivant.

                2) loaded BF2 -> loaded level -> shot ground. confirm no particles

                3) loaded in editor. generated particle atlas. loaded level in BF2 and shot ground. confirm no particles still.

                conclusions: there is a problem here. Please give me longer to get to the bottom of this. (it's 10pm here so expect further info tomorrow.)

                if you want to try something, try using other textures and especially different materials.

                alright mate, thank you very much. but now, do this, try to create another terrain in your editor, it wont work! or open one of the maps you are working on, try it, it wont work again! HOWEVER if you open the map you are working on (if there is one, or if not, open the one you already made) and if you shoot the ground, it will work! this basically screws up the editor. what you have done before this problem works, but after this, it doesn't. i asked this question, IN DETAIL, to the guys who work at EA, they don't know nothing about it. they told me to select the correct material!!!!! i think they don't know anything about the problems with the editor, and frankly, they know less than we do know. I, personally, witnessed that the EA's mod team coordinator told that he didnt know how to create a minimap (which i knew how to do it as many others). so this is really pissing me off. i spent 3 days for nothing? please..please...the answer shouldnt be "yes,you did".

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                • HicRic

                  #9
                  I'll play around some more soon, to see if there's a workaround for the problem. It's my birthday today though so don't expect anything soon.

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                  • maranello

                    #10
                    Originally posted by HicRic
                    I'll play around some more soon, to see if there's a workaround for the problem. It's my birthday today though so don't expect anything soon.
                    oh happy birthday man!!! :) :) :) i wish you a happy, successful life. take your time. thanks again for spending time for my problem.

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                    • maranello

                      #11
                      in the meantime, nobody knows what i m talking about?

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                      • -R|F-Glitch

                        #12
                        Originally posted by maranello
                        in the meantime, nobody knows what i m talking about?
                        I feel your pain, I feel your pain. Figure it out Hicric I need to know this too.

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                        • maranello

                          #13
                          Originally posted by -R|F-Glitch
                          I feel your pain, I feel your pain. Figure it out Hicric I need to know this too.
                          hicric figure this out, i ll buy you a front row seats for the next man. utd. game. :)

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                          • HicRic

                            #14
                            I'm utterly stumped. I don't understand, I could make particles appear fine before! Now I can't even make a new map myself and get them working!

                            I have a map I started in which I don't think I even tried to get particles working...and yet when I shoot the ground, it kicks up dust...I don't get it.

                            Sorry guys, no solution yet. Have to tried asking this on the offical forum where the EA guys are?

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                            • maranello

                              #15
                              Originally posted by HicRic
                              I'm utterly stumped. I don't understand, I could make particles appear fine before! Now I can't even make a new map myself and get them working!

                              I have a map I started in which I don't think I even tried to get particles working...and yet when I shoot the ground, it kicks up dust...I don't get it.

                              Sorry guys, no solution yet. Have to tried asking this on the offical forum where the EA guys are?
                              EA guys know less than we do...i dont know how EA released this editor...they dont know nothing about their product.

                              Edit: i forgot. yes i did ask them. i PM 4 EA guys, only 1 answered, and he told me to select the right materail !@#!@#!@#!@$#%$%#%^

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