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  • [LG]Cataclysm

    #1

    Snipers underpowered

    First, I play sniper a LOT. I rarley take a shot that is not a 1s1k, and my points reflect that (50+ on Sharqui Pensulia). So, I am not complaing about how the weapons shoud be better so I can be good, I am complaining about the total gayness of the Sniper class in BF2. The reasons for suckage are as follows:

    1) Claymore TKs
    2) Inaccuracy of the M95
    3) No 1s1k unless Headshot (WTF, .50 cal, AP round NOT 1s1k??)
    4) Camo only serves to make my comp process more texture, has NO effect on actually concealing me
    5) Scope is underpowered

    Now, I understand the game balace BS, but this has to be fixed... My fixes:

    1) TKs result in a Suicide for the dead guy
    2) M95 accuracy should be half way between SVD and M24
    3) 1s1k on the upper rear torso
    4) You will not show up on sat scan/UAV AND enimes cannot see your nametag IF you have been in one spot AND NOT MOVED for 1 min.
    5) Scope should be 6x or 8x
  • imported_Soda
    Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 398

    #2
    Yeah, the cammo sucks, doesn't help at all.

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    • bam23

      #3
      None of the above.

      The problem with being invisible to UAV and Scan is, on a map when all flags are cappable, a sniper is most likely going to be the last person alive on one team when the other team has complete control of the map. This makes the game unnecessarily long.

      I play sniper with a lot of patience. Wait for a good shot and shoot his head off, this doesn't allow him any time to see where you hit him from. Don't risk a shot when he's moving or you'll blow your position. Spot like crazy otherwise.

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      • vulcan

        #4
        Originally posted by Soda
        Yeah, the cammo sucks, doesn't help at all.
        Especially on the urban maps. The snipers look like running mounds of shag-pile going down the streets on Karkand ! :p

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        • Combined

          #5
          I would also go with Bam23's suggestion, I don't think the sniper class needs a boost, only a minority play it anyway.

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          • Grafisk

            #6
            I agree that the M95 has horrible accuracy. The only team you can really feel as a sniper is with USMC when you've got the M24...

            About that it's .50 cal, yes sure, IRL it would rip a body apart, but there's .50 cals on the cars too and no one seems to have complaints about them? :S Just increase the accuracy as I said ^^

            I believe the camo has some effect on zatar wetlands and in some bushes, and I don't believe that the texture has any impact on the gaming performance, gee, it's not like you get FPS-drop when encountering a sniper oO

            The scope zoom is good enough (even if I would want 2 options), but it should be thinner on the M95.

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            • C11.Nemisis

              #7
              Originally posted by bam23
              None of the above.

              Snipers should be invisible to UAV and Scanners, but everything else is fine.

              I play sniper with a lot of patience. Wait for a good shot and shoot his head off, this doesn't allow him any time to see where you hit him from. Don't risk a shot when he's moving or you'll blow your position. Spot like crazy otherwise.

              can you imagine it , a squad of snipers jsut running through the map undected by scans and uav

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              • vulcan

                #8
                Originally posted by bam23
                None of the above.

                Snipers should be invisible to UAV and Scanners, but everything else is fine.

                I play sniper with a lot of patience. Wait for a good shot and shoot his head off, this doesn't allow him any time to see where you hit him from. Don't risk a shot when he's moving or you'll blow your position. Spot like crazy otherwise.

                BS, Why should they be invisible to any scans or UAV ?

                It's BF2, covering most aspects of modern infantry/vehicle/air combat, not sniperfest 2005.

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                • imported_Soda
                  Member
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 398

                  #9
                  Originally posted by vulcan
                  Especially on the urban maps. The snipers look like running mounds of shag-pile going down the streets on Karkand ! :p

                  Ghost Recon's snipers flowed well in the forest environments, it wasn't that easy to spot them like a regular soldier.

                  But in BF2 it doesn't matter if it's in forest or not, you can see the sniper just like any other soldier.

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                  • bam23

                    #10
                    Yea, I changed it after I put a little more thought into it.

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                    • vulcan

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Soda
                      But in BF2 it doesn't matter if it's in forest or not, you can see the sniper just like any other soldier.
                      Perhaps somebody could re-skin the sniper to make the camo colour more approriate to the map textures and environment ?
                      The abillity to swap skins in between map loading times with a .bat file could also be a good idea.

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                      • ABD_Bangbus

                        #12
                        1) TKs result in a Suicide for the dead guy

                        -If they did that for the claymore they would have to do it for mines as well. Its not going to happen (thank god) or people will claymore/mine everything with no fear of TKing, and that, folks is an imbalance.

                        2) M95 accuracy should be half way between SVD and M24

                        -I should be a little more accurate, but be carful or you end up with Q2 railgun syndrome.

                        3) 1s1k on the upper rear torso

                        -No. Get better at head shots. It should be hard to get a 1 hit kill not easier
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                        4) You will not show up on sat scan/UAV AND enimes cannot see your nametag IF you have been in one spot AND NOT MOVED for 1 min.

                        -I think 1 minute is a little excessive but right now, ghillie suits dont help you when the commander has scanned. It

                        5) Scope should be 6x or 8x

                        -I do think the M95 should have the most powerful scope, but I dont see a difference between it and the M24. M95 can reach out and touch someone at 1000 yards, but we cant see nearly that far now. Maybe a 2 stage scope (4X then 10X)?

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                        • Daz

                          #13
                          How is this a poll at all? You just stated the things you want changed.

                          It would kinda suck if snipers killed with one shot, it wouldnt give anyone a chance to escape. most of the time people arent at full health anyway.

                          Pfft, everyone should show up on UAVs and they do, your name tag should be there, dont be stupid. The reason snipers arent that good is because this is not a stealth game.

                          You basically want it so nobody can see you and you can allways get perfect hits, well thats just way unbalanced.

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