A necessary Vehicle!

[rombaft]

the next patch won't a something like this, ad it would be to strong in a game, everywhere the thing is it would kill infantry, vihicles, .... .

Crapy idea man, and who or what is going to take the plain down ??

btw, a chopper can take out tanks in no time, so whats your problem ?

[Dearmad]

I'd like it in only if off the shoulder heat seeking stinger missles were comon on the battle field too- lack of inf. to air. weaponry sucks otherwise.

[Solar71]

i completely agree...

tanks are very powerfull and too numerous...
there needs to be a good way to remove them...
the warthog would be PERFECT!!!
its main weekness... other Airplanes...
its strengths... Air to ground superiority...

That would be awesome!!!

[Foxtrot]

This game takes place like 10-20 years in the future doesn't it? The A-10 is already reaching its end now, I doubt we will still use it in 15 years.

[rombaft]

tanks are very powerfull and too numerous...
there needs to be a good way to remove them...

Maybe you need some practice man,

- a tank is slow and you an take the dam thing out with c4 in no time, destroyed like 1 milion tanks with C4
- with ground defence site, you take a tank out in one good shot, you can't mis the thing because it's slow and big
- a chopper takes a tank out in like 1 second, again, you can't mis it because it's slow and big
- a plane bombs a tank to hel in 1 sec, most easy target to hit
- when a tank hits a mine, he is gone
- with the AT guy, you take a tank out in 2-3 shots, when you have a bit of a brain you can do this easely by hooting and hiding

some guys here on the forum realy need to practive an learn the game more and don't write crap like tha tank is gods weapon and impossible to destroy, it's easy to destroy a tank with many different sorts of recources

[DezemoDova]

like a C130 Gunship

[Saureco]

what we need is a C130 that would be the ultimate ground cover and transport miracle

I thought of that, too. At least it would make sense to make a transport airplane (albeit a slow one) as a mobile spawning point. Making a heavy helo as a mobile spawn due to squad leader spawning is rediculous. I know I've whined about this before, but having a spawn point hover over your main base with guys dropping every 20 seconds is just rediculous. Having a slow airplane that has to circle around makes much more sense and would be much more acceptable to the general playing public. In the least, any aircraft can land at its airfield and pick up more guys.

[PhoeniX_0]

The game need a mi-24 !!! Its a mi-28 and black-hawk combined =) .The perfect whoring machine :evil:

[HABO3]

an A-10 ain't an A-10 without it's mavericks....and mavericks would be way too powerful, does any other country have anything equivalent to the AT maverick?

[Tk-421]

This game takes place like 10-20 years in the future doesn't it? The A-10 is already reaching its end now, I doubt we will still use it in 15 years.

That is incorrect. One of my clanmates is in the Army & we recently had a discussion about the A-10's future. The short version is the Air Force dislikes the A-10 b/c it doesn't fit their mantra. The Army LOVE the A-10 because it's one of the best close air support vehicles EVER.

Here's the quote:

Since the question came up elsewhere on this site, I decided to post this article just released:



NEXT-GEN WARTHOG TAKES OFF

It wasn't too long ago that the Air Force was making noises about cancelling the venerable, scrappy A-10 Warthog close air support plane. Last week at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida, "a significantly upgraded version of the 1970s-era Warthog with new advanced precision engagement capabilities took its first flight," Inside the Air Force reports.

The $300 million [A-10C] program gives the Warthog two new glass multifunction color cockpit displays, along with a digital stores management system that allows pilots to control weapons through computers. Also, a new grip and throttle, which incorporate a number of buttons and switches to control various functions, will allow Warthog pilots to command most of the aircraft’s functions without taking their hands off the throttle and stick…

The power supply onboard the aircraft also has been increased to manage the new weapons the fighter will employ -- the Joint Direct Attack Munition and Wind-Corrected Munitions Dispenser...

Finally, the PE [precision engagement] program provides the fighter with a fully integrated targeting pod capability to deliver the smart weapons. A-10Cs can carry up to six Joint Direct Attack Munitions and Wind Corrected Munitions Dispensers.

The upgrades give A-10 pilots an “unbelievable” increase in situational awareness, along with a reduced workload, said Maj. Trey Rawls, a pilot with Eglin’s 40th Flight Test Squadron who commanded the aircraft during its first flight last week. He spoke with ITAF Jan. 24.

Air Combat Command is aiming to begin deploying in 2007 only A-10Cs to combat theaters. The entire active-duty, Air National Guard and Air Force Reserve A-10 inventory of 356 aircraft is scheduled to receive the upgrades.


Not bad for a plane that Air Force generals have been trying "to kill it from the moment it was born," as Slate's Fred Kaplan notes.

Why the antipathy? To understand that, "one must go back to 1947, when the Air Force broke away from the Army and became an independent branch," author Robert Coram explained in a 2003 New York Times op-ed.

"Strategic bombing," which calls for deep bombing raids against enemy factories and transportation systems, was the foundation of the new service branch. But that concept is fundamentally flawed for the simple reason that air power alone has never won a war.

Nevertheless, strategic bombing, now known as "interdiction bombing," remains the philosophical backbone of the Air Force. Anything involving air support of ground troops is a bitter reminder that the Air Force used to be part of the Army and subordinate to Army commanders. For the white-scarf crowd, nothing is more humiliating than being told that what it does best is support ground troops.

Until the A-10 was built in the 1970's, the Air Force used old, underpowered aircraft to provide close air support. It never had a plane specifically designed to fly low to the ground to support field troops. In fact, the A-10 never would have been built had not the Air Force believed the Army was trying to steal its close air support role -- and thus millions of dollars from its budget -- by building the Cheyenne helicopter. The Air Force had to build something cheaper than the Cheyenne. And because the Air Force detested the idea of a designated close air support aircraft, generals steered clear of the project, and designers, free from meddling senior officers, created the ultimate ground-support airplane.

It is cheap, slow, low-tech, does not have an afterburner, and is so ugly that the grandiose name "Thunderbolt" was forgotten in favor of "Warthog" or, simply, "the Hog." What the airplane does have is a deadly 30-millimeter cannon, two engines mounted high and widely separated to offer greater protection, a titanium "bathtub" to protect the pilot, a bullet- and fragmentation-resistant canopy, three back-up flight controls, a heavy duty frame and foam-filled fuel tanks -- a set of features that makes it one of the safest yet most dangerous weapons on the battlefield.


"When the first Gulf War was being planned in 1990, Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf, the chief of U.S. Central Command, had to fight the Air Force to send over a mere 174 A-10s for his use," Kaplan writes. "Yet in the course of the war, those A-10s knocked out roughly half of the 1,700 Iraqi tanks that were destroyed from the air... Even the Air Force brass had to admit the planes had done a good job, and they kept them in the fleet."

By the second Gulf War, however, the Air Force was again considering putting the Warthog out to pasture. Air Combat Command's Maj. Gen. David Deptula told a subordinate to work up a "persuasive" argument for "terminating the A-10 fleet." It never happened. And the Warthog has gone on to be one of the most effective fighters on the Iraqi campaign.

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[Odinpalen]

yeah with the bomber you have a laser guided missiles and 5 bombs. The missiles lock too. so easy its pathetic.
Pilot flys high switches to bomb mode, finds target, point nose at target and co pilot fires lockable missile with 95% accuracy. If missile misses then release bombs. What more is needed to kill a tank? And dont forget all the anti tank infantry weapons aswell.

[penguino]

Get shoulder fired stingers and an laser designator to give to snipers. And a BH Should take 1 hit to kill, and 2 it it has engies repairing... not like now where i dee a BH howering and i shoot a tank round right into the cockpit and it just turns around and flies off...

-an A-10 would rape the battlefield...think about it (its reall a helo that can go superfast with cluster bombs and air-2-air missles)

[lherndo]

I just wish the tanks and APC's would take longer to spawn

I just wish the tanks and APC's would take longer to spawn. The way it is now, it's almost not worth killing because it respawns in like 30 secs. Same with planes and helis.

If your team destoys most of the armor or helis on the map, or of the enemy. You should gain a strategic advantage. But now, by the time the drivers respawn they merely need to wait a few more seconds and their armor is right back where they got it from and they come rolling back.

[volkl]

My God Battlefield 2 needs an A-10 Tank Killer/Warthog. Flying at lower speeds over a battlefield with an airplane that has tripple redundant flight capability and heavy armor, not to mention a kick ass gatling gun and an arsenal of AA/AG missiles and cluster bombs...what more could you ask for? It would be the perfect vehicle to strafe a battlefield and destroy all armor and give enemy helicopters a run for their money. I'm not sure what you would balance this vehicle with for the MEC and Chinese...Military buffs come out of the woodworks and suggest some more vehicles!

A-10 Warthog would be nice. Add a nuke bomb to it which can decimate a 1000 yard radius. Don't worry about the balance issue. Good teamwork can take down anything including blackhawks and warthogs.

Seriously, I do like the A-10. I think converting the UAV into a manned EA5 with AWACS might be cool and have fewer balance issues.

[iewgnem]

Why A10? so you can have a plane that can shoot tanks? You can already bomb one-tank-per-bomb with the bomber, why would you want another tank-killer?

If you are talking about fitting a plane with the chopper rocket system that seems less efficent than the carpet bomb dont you think...