Battlefield 3 Details Leaked

[vanilla]

Is it me or don't i get the point of Stamina's post? Is he talking to me or something?

I was referring to your post, yes.
By the way, it's kinda rude talking like that, don't you think so? I am here to talk with you, no need to ignore me.

[Erhardt]

Because WE are getting ripped off again by DICE! Having to wait 3 months for a patch that's in beta testing and only fixed some visuals of a pool! **** me, that's straight ******** they haven't been looking 3 months for some improvement on a pool.

Breathe. Now look up a few more threads on the subject, they took 3 months to fix more than the pool graphics. I daresay the majority of their effort doubtlessly went into quashing the bug that kept crashing the game.

No updates on BF2 or 2142 in that time being, they are just trying to rush their rip-off games and try to break the world record of bringing out patches.

I have to know... did you write that first paragraph, and then the second, all with a straight face the entire time? :laugh:

Seriously... Wailing about how long it's taking them to finish the patch in one breath, and then declaring they are just rushing through the patch in the next puts a pretty serious dent in some already suspect credibility.

BF2142 and BF2 will get left out in the cold with ( i'm sure ) 1.40 being the last patch ever for 2142.

They seem to be done with BF2. Being done is a far cry from leaving it out in the cold. Absolutely, among the throngs of players who still play it, there are complaints about things that they want fixed/changed, but come on. The game plays, and it's about as balanced as it's ever going to get considering the audience that plays it can never reach a consensus of opinion on any single issue. DICE will never, ever, be able to make the game perfect until all the players are lobotomized.

If all that information on BF3 is real, i wouldn't be buying it.

Duly noted.

Although i would like DICE to prove me wrong there, but i really think they won't...

Just remember, if they do, you're still boned, because you won't be buying it (see above)!

Honestly... you need to relax. "It's just a game, Fokker!" If you're getting this torqued over it, move on to something else and be done with it. You're living a world spoiled for choice, take advantage of it and quit advertising the chip on your shoulder.

[FPS[SONIC]]

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I think you guys get me all wrong, so here's my point again:

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Vreki pretty much sums up all the big points here and he is right! You must a very naive DICE fanboy to say he isn't right.

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Also it's quite sad for sonicpixel that he says: ''Don't let us down DICE''
Well, i'm pretty sure they won't do that

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I think we got you right: you're pissed off and hostile. We're all trying to say, this is not an official announcement. Take a second and collect yourself.

Vreki has some valid points. Listen, nothing I do is perfect. Nothing the organization I work for does is perfect. Our government and religions are not perfect. Why do we hold a gaming company up to such incredibly high standards. They make mistakes and they make decisions to impact their bottom line -- it's the way of the world.

I'm not sure why it is sad for me to express that I don't want DICE to let us down with BF3, but you're allowed to have your own opinions. I tend to be optimistic and supportive. If that conflicts with your hostility and very negative attitude, it's your issue not mine.

[Wizrdwarts]

Yeah is it just me or do BF games come out with less and less maps every time? How many did 1942 come with, wasn't there like 30 or something?

[Yukiism]

Don't you guys have common sense? Ok i'll try it to explain it even more!

I said rush the GAME! Like they did with 2142. Then drop all support when they have a new game on their hands.

Ever heard of marketing strategies? I guess not, if you would you would be able to understand what i am saying.

Long time ago i was also optimistic about 2142. I bought a buggy game and 4 or something patches later i'm still stuck with massive exploits, bugs etc. etc.
You would think OK if they would solve it all with a few pacthes, but when BF3 comes out 2142 will be like BF2 after the release of 2142 minus decent editor. Anyone forgot about the nice promise that the game would ship with editor?? And oh, aren't they now trying to restrict the Mod community into NOT using any of the booster pack content?
DICE standards are: 1. Rush game 2. Bring out a number of patches that don't fix anything, but only get things even worse.

Oh yes, of course it's a game. But aren't i allowed to have at least a decent game without some guy clipping Titans?

[Vreki]

Seriously... Wailing about how long it's taking them to finish the patch in one breath, and then declaring they are just rushing through the patch in the next puts a pretty serious dent in some already suspect credibility.

Well the patch is another example of what I would call poor management from EA.

2-3 weeks into the beta a manager should have stepped up and said

Allright guys, it is clear that we cannot fix this in a hurry, so we are going to make a build of what works and make that ready for release.

I think SonicPixel will agree on this as a softwaredeveloper.

With a bit a luck we could have had both the new map and the new clark two months ago, since the crashes happens regardless of what map is loaded.

Now I have been following the First Strike Forums, and apparently they were on a visit to Dice were they got confirmed that the team that developed the engine was in fact no longer around.
They had been paid to make then engine and had then moved on.

I remember an earlier discussion on this board where someone implied the same, and I refused to believe someone could be that stupid.
Well it appears I owe him an apology, someone could indeed be that stupid :shakehead:

It is no wonder that they are unable to fix the bugs when there is no one left who understands it.

[Salad Snake]

Now I have been following the First Strike Forums, and apparently they were on a visit to Dice were they got confirmed that the team that developed the engine was in fact no longer around.
They had been paid to make then engine and had then moved on.

I remember an earlier discussion on this board where someone implied the same, and I refused to believe someone could be that stupid.
Well it appears I owe him an apology, someone could indeed be that stupid :shakehead:

It is no wonder that they are unable to fix the bugs when there is no one left who understands it.

I thought it was you. :)

Here is the thread

[Yukiism]

Well the patch is another example of what I would call poor management from EA.

2-3 weeks into the beta a manager should have stepped up and said


I think SonicPixel will agree on this as a softwaredeveloper.

With a bit a luck we could have had both the new map and the new clark two months ago, since the crashes happens regardless of what map is loaded.

Now I have been following the First Strike Forums, and apparently they were on a visit to Dice were they got confirmed that the team that developed the engine was in fact no longer around.
They had been paid to make then engine and had then moved on.

I remember an earlier discussion on this board where someone implied the same, and I refused to believe someone could be that stupid.
Well it appears I owe him an apology, someone could indeed be that stupid :shakehead:

It is no wonder that they are unable to fix the bugs when there is no one left who understands it.

And your damn right about that.
All those naive DICE fanboys can't believe what they read now.

[Salad Snake]

Lol I detect hostility.......

Anyway, DICE probably had no say in the matter, EA would be the ones to handle the hiring.

I'm no fanboy, but I just as sure am not a DICE hater.

[Timh27]

I do agree that dice/ea's support is terrible but i personally cant slag off something which gives me 300+ hours enterainment & i hope that bf3 is a quality game but i must admit it sounds to simular to bf2 for my liking but i guess time will tell

[nemes1s3000]

EA just bought BioWare and Pandemic, so more delays and less updates now, haha, I'm so evil.

[The_Eliminator]

Im not sure whether BF3 will be any good even if it is true.

1. EA will publish it and we all know how well that goes.

That is all...

[Yukiism]

Im not sure whether BF3 will be any good even if it is true.

1. EA will publish it and we all know how well that goes.

That is all...

Ok, this is the first time i do:

QFT!!!

[FPS[SONIC]]

Honestly, after playing the CoD4 demo, I could care less. I've got a new fixation. =)

Vreki, I'm actually not a software developer, but a visual designer. What you say is true, the patch was horribly mismanaged for 2142. I can understand how something like that happens, but that is no excuse for it. And, if the core team no longer works for DICE, the future is bleak for future BF titles.

I understand FFoW has key members from the original BF team onboard, so many FPS fanboys I know have high expectations for that title. I just joined the beta for that, so I'll share some impressions at a later date.

[The_Eliminator]

Ok, this is the first time i do:

QFT!!!