Knifing in BF3

[Stryker]

After watching a couple of videos, I feel the new Knifing animations is going to make knifing insanely ridiculous and easy. There is no missing, pull your knife out, run up to someone and get a nice smooth animation and one easy kill.

Seeing how the animation takes 2 seconds i feel they should add a button press or sway mouse movement or something to "reverse" it if your quick enough. Or else, why pull your handgun out when the you and your enemy run out of bullets, you have a 1 press, 1 hit machine knife in your hand. Maybe the reverse means they get killed, or if hit right on point it shoves them back.

Having the ability to reverse it may sound "consolely" but knifing in general in games like BF2, BC, COD are just really annoying. I have a feeling knifing is used as a means to keep people from camping, but people are going to worry so much about being 1 hit killed that it's going to lead togameplay similar to COD, where as everyone continually guns even if in a random direction just to contineuly keep moving, no tactics, no skill, just pure madness!

BF2 knifing you could take a hit or 2, maybe in 3, now more people are following cod's approach, Knife > gun

What's your thoughts on this?

[Minmaster]

Re: Knifing in BF3

there is a small window to counter the knife from what i've been hearing
you push the guy away or something.

[Lordsethonan]

Re: Knifing in BF3

The animation only plays out on "stealth" kills. And if you have been playing BF some time... you know that once you get behind someone they are pretty mych dead; if anything, now the kill is not guaranteed and you will risk getting shot by someone else.

They need to add a prone knife kill where you sit on top of the other guy, what's ridiculous is you pick them up and then stab them.

[CptainCrunch]

Re: Knifing in BF3

Ive also heard that there is a counter measure to fight back.

So with that, having to be stealth, dogtags only from stealth, no dolphin diving knife to the ankles, and having to select your knife manually; knifing is harder than it has ever been.

Crunch

[jimykx]

Re: Knifing in BF3

wich is good

[Redink]

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I miss the karkand firepitt knife fight

[Anarchy1]

Re: Knifing in BF3

Only stealth kills are instant kills. Demize said you can't block it, but if you miss the stealth kill (the person finds out?), then it is not an instant kill. You get one chance at a stealth kill as well.

Anything other than a stealth kill is not an instant kill. Demize said knife fights are still in the game.

[-Shifty-]

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It would be really interesting if you could prolong knife fights. For example, you walk up behind somebody and begin the kill animation, but on the victim's screen, a line with a sweet spot in the middle where a vertical line goes back and forth perpendicularly to the horizontal line appears, and if you hit the counter button when the marker is in the sweet spot, you could counter the knife and use it against the attacker, but then the situation turns around and the attacker gets this sweet spot opportunity. If the victim ever misses the sweet spot, they get killed. The sweet spot cannot be too big, it has to require good timing.

This could make for fun and intense knife fights, but the developers would have to make a few different animations to keep it from becoming boring, maybe just 3.

[jimykx]

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It would be really interesting if you could prolong knife fights. For example, you walk up behind somebody and begin the kill animation, but on the victim's screen, a line with a sweet spot in the middle where a vertical line goes back and forth perpendicularly to the horizontal line appears, and if you hit the counter button when the marker is in the sweet spot, you could counter the knife and use it against the attacker, but then the situation turns around and the attacker gets this sweet spot opportunity. If the victim ever misses the sweet spot, they get killed. The sweet spot cannot be too big, it has to require good timing.

This could make for fun and intense knife fights, but the developers would have to make a few different animations to keep it from becoming boring, maybe just 3.

true, we had a discussion on that already, and i do believe that if well done it would be pretty awesome. For example imagine in a clan voip server or through the voip in game, someone going like "help me! " and you would look to the side and your fellow teammate was fighting an enemy and you would have the chance to shoot down the enemy that was punching him, saving your friend, receiving some sort of pin or medal for it. Or imagine yourself going into a fight and missing that "sweet spot" or even if it was some sort of button mashing thing, were the buttons would appear in the screen and you had to press them correctly, imagine yourself missing and as soon as you were going to get knifed in the face, one of your friends(a sniper for example) headshots the enemy and saves your life. Of course entering these fighint modes would be medium-hard, you should only have like a second to press that correct button, because beeing able to counter that person knifing you should not be easy and should not allways happen

[-Shifty-]

Re: Knifing in BF3

To be honest, I've only heard of one knife kill in the War on Terror. It's really hard to knife somebody in real life, especially with all the body armor and other things that get in the way. So by making it easier to get into a knife fight, the game would get pretty interesting, and there should be a big point bonus for winning a fight like that.

[Vreki]

Re: Knifing in BF3

It would be really interesting if you could prolong knife fights. For example, you walk up behind somebody and begin the kill animation, but on the victim's screen, a line with a sweet spot in the middle where a vertical line goes back and forth perpendicularly to the horizontal line appears, and if you hit the counter button when the marker is in the sweet spot, you could counter the knife and use it against the attacker, but then the situation turns around and the attacker gets this sweet spot opportunity. If the victim ever misses the sweet spot, they get killed. The sweet spot cannot be too big, it has to require good timing.

No offence intended, but I really dont want any stupid minigames in my FPS. It really annoyed me in COD even though it was only in SP.
Your actions and their chance of succes should depend on how you interact with the enemy, not some immersion breaking game of tetris or whatever.

[Lordsethonan]

Re: Knifing in BF3

I don't think its that difficult to knife somebody in real life; but there is this pesky detail:

If I have a gun in real life, and some guy comes towards me with a knife... I'm not pulling out my knife to have a "duel" I'm shooting the guy dead.

[jimykx]

Re: Knifing in BF3

If I have a gun in real life, and some guy comes towards me with a knife... I'm not pulling out my knife to have a "duel" I'm shooting the guy dead.

That was not the point, if the guy came from behind you and disarmed you and tried to knife you in real life you would fight back, that's where the fight starts

[Infernalis]

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It's a game and the fact you took risks closing for the kill is enough, and now it's 2 hits from the front to kill someone so it's ok. In real life you wouldn't knife someone except in a very few situations.

[-Shifty-]

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I like what all of you have said, they're all interesting opinions, and valid points. I think it would be fun, I guess the new question would be, is this the right game to put something like that in?