Vietnam is great but...

[Redink]

Hey guys, I'm back from starcraft 2 and Catacysim just for Vietnam! Now many of the post in here seems to appraise Vietnam greatly and don't get me wrong I love this game and it's the reason I'm back.

Now I totally digging the iron site, enough with all that ez aiming red dot but the only thing I think that this expansion can fix are the maps. Many of the maps I play have a choke point in some area where it's impossible to get through or sneak by. Some path way are just too narrow which makes it almost impossible to avoid a fire fight.

Oh and hello guys! Did ya miss me?

I'm back and what a way to start the new year eh?

[Kylee!]

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No one missed you lol, and play the game with less people. Also, don't play Vantage Point on Rush, or just not at all, all problems solved.

[jimykx]

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woooow look whos back!!! yeah nice to have you back. now we have more people to help us counting!!! http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com/sh...ighlight=count

i havent sbought vietnam yet due to my inability to have a credit card
happy new year to you too!

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woooow look whos back!!! yeah nice to have you back. now we have more people to help us counting!!! http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com/sh...ighlight=count

i havent sbought vietnam yet due to my inability to have a credit card
happy new year to you too!

Buy a pre-paid Visa gift card from the store. Then you can order things online.

[Minmaster]

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lol wb and happy new yr!
i haven't been playing much either lately but i plan to get my money's worth on vietnam

[groundedzero]

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No one missed you lol

+1

heheheheheh :awes

[Infernalis]

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Welcome back Redink.

[jimykx]

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Buy a pre-paid Visa gift card from the store. Then you can order things online.

going to check that out

[CptainCrunch]

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Yeah, Vietnam has choke points, which is strange because BC2 didn't have any.

I'm glad this thread was made because I do see a list of issues that need a bit of resolving. These are actual bugs, not weapon tweaks:

• The "no go" black zone is not correct with the actual map. You get the timer before you actually go into the zone.
• Hastings has a rock you can get stuck in when you spawn and have to hop out for safety.
• PBR can shoot through rocks, thick walls, and even boulders.
• There are invisible walls in Hill 137. DICE, TAKE DOWN THOSE WALLS!
• Hit reg is way off. Its not even the same registration as BC2. Its like the boxes are to the right a little bit or something.

Seeing other players and enemy is also difficult, but I don't see that as a bug myself. It is suppose to be jungle warfare. If everything was crystal clear and with no haze, then what would be the point?

OK, now the weapons tweaks that should really be made:

For Engineer:
The PPSh needs to be left alone, but the MAC10 and Uzi need a little bit of a boost. I understand the ROF thing, but there is no reason to use the guns when you have the PPSh. Ive gone against people with the them while I had the PPSh and unless they got the drop on me, I win. You guys can tell me if I am wrong on this as I have not played with the other two very much, just a little.

For Recon:
The SVD and M21 are the exact same gun performance wise. The scopes are different.

The M40 shouldn't be 105 damage. Its a one hit kill in the upper chest with or without armor on. I'm all for one hit kill sniper rifles, but when they null and void a perk selection, its just not right. I haven't fully tested that to see if its 100% true all the time, but it seems easy enough.

For Medic:
Leave it alone. All the weapons have their own identity and uses.

For Assault:
Also, leave it alone. Same reason for medic.

The Huey:
Leave it alone. I know the side guns seem to hit people with ease. The problem is that the rockets on the huey takes about 3 passes to take out a tank while all weapons do damage to the huey. If they nerf the side guns, the air power that the huey has will be gone and the vehicle wont be the threat that it was meant to be. If the guns where like the blackhawk in BC2, people wouldnt be hitting anything because of how fast the huey flys.

I personally dont see any issue with the rest of the weapons and how they act. Perhaps I can be presuaded to think otherwise, but it would have to be a really good response with some true hard facts and not opinion about how it kills too fast or takes away the "realism". Besides, I'm an anti-nerf kinda guy anyway

Good to see you back Red! I didn't miss you either Glad to see the post wasnt about how the game wasnt like BF:Vietnam :laugh:

Crunch

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Assault: I think the M14 could be tweaked. It's useless compared to the M16 and AK47. It's got a small mag, slower reload, slower RoF, and larger spread/spray, all for a tiny increase in damage that makes no difference. It still ends up taking the same amount of hits to kill as the AK. That makes it a useless gun.

Recon: Yes, the M21 and SVD are exactly the same with different scope crosshairs. They're also pretty lame. It takes four hits to kill with one, or two headshots. I've found that their only real use is for harassing the choppers. They do a serious amount of damage to the Huey.

For anything else, the M40 is a dominant choice.

Medic: Yeah, their weapons are pretty balanced against each other.

Engineer: The PPSh is better than the other engineer SMGs at all times. The high damage and low kick make it a lethal pewpewQQ laser hose. Either the other SMGs need to be boosted a bit or the PPSh needs to be brought down with the peasants. Right now it wins against the other SMGs at any range by just pointing in the direction of someone and holding the button.

The PBR is just wrong. It really can shoot through everything, it has splash damage, the game has some kind of movement lock when I'm being hit so that I can't run anywhere. If a boat sees me, or even thinks I MIGHT be there, I'm dead.

[CptainCrunch]

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I agree with the M14 as well. I was on the fence on that one, but thought it was just me and how I use it. It should be tweaked just a bit more with either its clip size or ROF. I think the damage is good, but you dont see it often and there is a reason for that.

Crunch

[Minmaster]

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so is the PBR like the APC mortar from 2142? in that case i'll try to spam it and get easy kills!

[Infernalis]

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Nah it's not, the APC was worse, at least the gunner of the PBR can easily die by small arms.

[CptainCrunch]

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so is the PBR like the APC mortar from 2142? in that case i'll try to spam it and get easy kills!

Well, kinda. It cant shoot through anything, just many things.Then the splash damage isnt that bad, but its not a splash damage weapon, so I guess its not right in any event. There are some huge boulders on Hill 137 that the PBR can shoot right through. Same thing with the Temple map, the huge wall around the first city, PBR can shoot through spots on it. Not all of it, but a good majority. Those are just two examples, it can actually do that in a lot of different places.

Crunch

[Vreki]

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Nah it's not, the APC was worse, at least the gunner of the PBR can easily die by small arms.

A RPG hit is also pretty devastating.
I agree that it shouldn't be able to shoot through boulders, but I haven't noticed that bug myself.
The way I prefer to use it is to park it a bit back from the frontline, and then use the front MG to suppress the enemy. It has great range so often the enemy wont notice where the bullets are coming from.