Demize says...

[=MNKY=Frosty]

Re: Demize says...

People talk **** about Demize and how bad he balanced in BC2, but you have to remember he is basically balancing for Consoles, the game is a Console game, Bad Company is a Console style series.

He did a great job in 2142, and I out 1000's of hours into that, when I learned that he worked on weapon balance (and probably other aspects) of it, it told me that either he had a stroke and forgot how to do his job, or BC2 was holding him back. Lets hope that with a fully fledged PC game he can do what he did with 2142 and get it right.

The best we can hope for is that BF3 on consoles and on PC will essentially be different games with the same name.

[Rambo]

Re: Demize says...

or... they might try to bring motion control games to the PC... be very afraid...

haha no prone for bad backs, destroy your room from dolphin diving behind the couch and tea bag your cat.

getting too ole for that sheet:p

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or... they might try to bring Lotion? control games to the PC... be very afraid...

*never mind, read it wrong*

[WolfAlmighty]

Re: Demize says...

wtf...did old_sch00l somehow hijack Rambo's account?

[Kylee!]

Re: Demize says...

wtf...did old_sch00l somehow hijack Rambo's account?

I think they're the same person.

[VACkillers]

Re: Demize says...

Even with all this elaborate text, Demize has failed to actually understand what sets a PC and a console apart and what is it that PC players appreciate. I got the impression that he was talking about hard to please elitists, which is not the case at all. And amusingly, when he mentioned what BF stood for, BC2 doesnt fit into that category at all.

So. Actions speak louder than words.

From Twitter to that post in question, Demize sees DICE-s pillar stone as whiny kids who cant be pleased. God help my hobby, because at this point, noone else can. And Im an atheist,

Interesting you said that, coz i think i got a bit offended aswell with that wall of txt about PC gamers (speaking in general) were basicly the hardest audience to please when thats not really true at all, i think he totally mis understood what PC gamers were wanting from a BF game on a PC, for me personally, all i want proper bot support, couldn't care less about unlock ranks achievements i just want bots, plain and simple, LAN parties with 2 on 2 is stupid, and in BC2, no lan at all.

Must not forget that consoles in general, have only had FPS games only recently, where PCs enjoy'd a whole decade of FPS games before they ever hit consoles, so console players are still in the "aww this is awesome" phase still, and one the biggest and best features of pc gaming is the free downloads of user created content which you simply dont get on the consoles, the mods are an enourmous reason as to why the battlefield series as a whole was so successfull over so many years, again, something you just simply do not get on consoles.

One of the biggest critics when BC2 was released was all to do with the no server creations. You either have to buy/rent a server from EA, or you dont get a server. Something that PC gamers were NOT prepared for OR was used to. Not everyone likes taking a game online anyway, an amazing statistic was mentioned by Mark Rein about the unreal tournament franchise when they were promoting UT3, that 70% of ppl that bought Unreal Tournament 2004 never took the game online. I think a large amount of BF players are the same way.

[x=FAST=x]

Re: Demize says...

People talk **** about Demize and how bad he balanced in BC2, but you have to remember he is basically balancing for Consoles, the game is a Console game, Bad Company is a Console style series.

bad company a console title? Sure I agree. But from what i am hearing (which may not be accurate) Bf3 will still have no prone and will be still held as 32 and the last time I heard it the game was 80% completed. Again, take that with a grain of salt of course. So if that is true, the path they have chosen, BF3 will also be a "consolish" crap in my books just like bad company
That being said, if it is true then

Demize has failed to actually understand what sets a PC and a console apart and what is it that PC players appreciate.

I hope that is not the case because that would leave many furious, i suspect...or not. With BF3 being implemented with an updated frostbite engine, i expect big improvement toward the PC not status quo. And no i'm not referring to spectacular graphics. I mean the other things PC gamers want that stand out from consoles.

[VACkillers]

Re: Demize says...

dont suppose you can tell us where you heard that info from? i couldn't find anything about that info, and the 32 player maybe because the fronsbite engine even tho its been heavily upgrades, may have some sort of player count limitation b4 it becomes unstable or something. But yeah like to know where you heard that from

[stilla-killa]

Re: Demize says...

Well hopefully Frostbite 2.0 will allow bigger player size and maps.

[stilla-killa]

Re: here to say hi

i'm really excited to be member of this portal, i hope that i can help out and find new friends :-)

What portal?

[Kylee!]

Re: here to say hi

i'm really excited to be member of this portal, i hope that i can help out and find new friends :-)

Bot.

[VACkillers]

Re: Demize says...

hopefully not a bot

[x=FAST=x]

Re: Demize says...

dont suppose you can tell us where you heard that info from? i couldn't find anything about that info, and the 32 player maybe because the fronsbite engine even tho its been heavily upgrades, may have some sort of player count limitation b4 it becomes unstable or something. But yeah like to know where you heard that from

Undisclosed podcast. I'm just saying. BF3 may not be the PC battlefield you know. We have to wait and see what is being delivered and what is the special attention they are talking about. Because graphics or dedicated servers are not gonna cut it. Those should be a no-brainer from the start. We want something that moves us away from the bad company console and call of "dutyish" game

[VACkillers]

Re: Demize says...

Well it'll be BC2 to a certain extent because they will be using the same engine, as to what tweaks they'll be doing is any ones guess to the engine, only thing i've seen so far was more to do with the technology and particle side of things, my guess would be that they will mix the best components of all the pervious BFs with the BC2 core engine but yeah we'll just have to play the waiting game for now