R8

[jimykx]

Re: R8

That sucks New maps does not mean same maps with different game modes! What is wrong with everyone!

Crunch

this, when i heard about that gonna happen again i just wanted to write all this in caps and kill someone

[imported_Fish]

Re: R8

Agreed. Engineers complain when they are constantly killed by attack choppers, but have no problem at all when the tracer dart is OP and they can get easy kills. Has to have balance.

but wont having flares on the choppers tilt the scales in the pilots favour. The balance atm is good.. Engineers get easy kills.. chopper gunners get easy kills.. now its gonna be the chopper gunner getting all the easy kills.

[L-iNC]

Re: R8

this, when i heard about that gonna happen again i just wanted to write all this in caps and kill someone

Expect it to happen many times more. There's still Port Valdez to be release. That'll make a nice 'free dlc map pack'.

[Infernalis]

Re: R8

but wont having flares on the choppers tilt the scales in the pilots favour. The balance atm is good.. Engineers get easy kills.. chopper gunners get easy kills.. now its gonna be the chopper gunner getting all the easy kills.

If the flares cancel the dart it will become pre-uber dart, and choppers did go down easily to 50cal and AA. The only time choppers were op is with the Hind on Isla Innocentes.

[Scinto]

Re: R8

Dont like Nelson Bay on Rush so doubt Im going to like it on Conquest,,

As for the flares it depends on the CD will be as its easy to get another Dart on the chopper even after the flares are deployed.

[CptainCrunch]

Re: R8

It also depends on the recharge times for the flares. If it takes a few minutes then helos are still targets. Same goes for having multiple engineers on a team. First engi loses his dart, but the second gets the tag after the flares are fired and then both can lock on to it.

I think the changes will be good.

Crunch

[bradino27]

Re: R8

Do modern tanks have countermeasure flares? I know I played a game that had it (Frontlines: Fuel of War or Quake Wars) but they were both futuristic. If modern tanks DO have countermeasure flares, then I think they should add that.

[CptainCrunch]

Re: R8

They do have smoke screens and destructive armor, which is what you see in BC2.

Crunch

[Tampa]

Re: R8

but wont having flares on the choppers tilt the scales in the pilots favour. The balance atm is good.. Engineers get easy kills.. chopper gunners get easy kills.. now its gonna be the chopper gunner getting all the easy kills.

No way balance is good ATM. There is nothing you can do as a pilot once darted. Not avoiding rockets using terrain, no flares, nothing. Engineers have the advantage in numbers. Pilots have to avoid darts, AA, Heavy MG's, 50 cal sniper rifles, tanks, tank gunners, rockets. Engineers have to avoid one chopper. Without line of sight being needed to lock on and fire, you could hide in a container the whole round being safe only popping your head out to fire if you really felt like it.

I think the added errrrr finally fixed flares will balance it out perfectly. This way, as a pilot, if you fly smart, you can avoid most of the incoming fire, and have a way to fight off the darts. The only issue i see after R8, is the timer on the flares.

[Minmaster]

Re: R8

you can go hide behind some mountain far far away when you get darted no?

[johnrondot]

Re: R8

Dont like Nelson Bay on Rush so doubt Im going to like it on Conquest,,

As for the flares it depends on the CD will be as its easy to get another Dart on the chopper even after the flares are deployed.

Yeah i hate nelson bay.It would suck even more in conquest mode.I want more big desert maps like Arica.

[-Shifty-]

Re: R8

I disagree with most of the opinions above. Blackhawks are transport helicopters. The mini-guns on them are utterly useless and as soon as you start firing - you go blind. At the moment, even with a good chopper pilot and squad, they are pretty much one way tickets since the tracer darts are a joke now, as you can't really miss after a little bit of practice. No helicopter will last longer than about 30 seconds in the air with a good engineer.

Then you've got the attack helicopters. The helicopters are supposed to be attack helicopters. Right now they're target practice for the BDM3 (Spelling?). I miss the old damage the helicopters would do. It would be fun using the zoom function as the gunner of an Apache on Port Valdez and just mowing down the infantry that tried to approach. Now I can't get infantry with one burst - maybe that's just me.

The bottom line is: the whole system is messed up. Vreki got the idea right though.

[jimykx]

Re: R8

Expect it to happen many times more. There's still Port Valdez to be release. That'll make a nice 'free dlc map pack'.

Port valdez?!? port valdez is already out.....

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you can go hide behind some mountain far far away when you get darted no?

This. with more vehicles, cause vehicles are really on a low mode, there are just some helis in some maps , theyr really limited

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Pilots have to avoid darts,

Darts???? theyr more like UBER LAZORZ now

[MrChris_CJ]

Re: R8

you can go hide behind some mountain far far away when you get darted no?

no, you rarely have the space, you can avoid tracers in tanks by putting a wall or building between you and the guy locked on but in a heli, once you are tracered you have a few seconds to bail out before you fry

I disagree with most of the opinions above. Blackhawks are transport helicopters. The mini-guns on them are utterly useless and as soon as you start firing - you go blind. At the moment, even with a good chopper pilot and squad, they are pretty much one way tickets since the tracer darts are a joke now, as you can't really miss after a little bit of practice. No helicopter will last longer than about 30 seconds in the air with a good engineer.

Then you've got the attack helicopters. The helicopters are supposed to be attack helicopters. Right now they're target practice for the BDM3 (Spelling?). I miss the old damage the helicopters would do. It would be fun using the zoom function as the gunner of an Apache on Port Valdez and just mowing down the infantry that tried to approach. Now I can't get infantry with one burst - maybe that's just me.

The bottom line is: the whole system is messed up. Vreki got the idea right though.

indeed, the blackhawks can kill people with prolonged fire but they are dam weak, they should be support/transport helis but instead you get in one, fly forward then its missile lock and you are ****ed, I can sometimes keep one circling for a while but flying like that means the gunner won't kill anything

[Amaranthuse]

Re: R8

It also depends on the recharge times for the flares. If it takes a few minutes then helos are still targets. Same goes for having multiple engineers on a team. First engi loses his dart, but the second gets the tag after the flares are fired and then both can lock on to it.

I think the changes will be good.

Crunch

Give them BF2142 gunship shields :)

Just not the doragon one xD